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Message: [QUOTE="kidorange, post: 3726607, member: 3927"] True. And we're 17 games in and can't even proximate the ceiling for half our players because it's been predetermined by what coach saw at practice. Not the games that you and I see where Kadary is oozing, Jesse shows potential, Woody looks like he could be a Great and so on and so on. Questionable bench usage and player development has become the norm and it's reached a boiling point with Kadary. [/QUOTE]