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Message: [QUOTE="Van111, post: 607289, member: 1851"] I'd like to remind folks that NY top talent isn't motivated to stay in NY. SS and his team is doing it right, go after the kids that want to play here, regardless of where they are from. Want top talent from NY to stay here, lets get a consistent winner and contender back on the field. Who cares about NYC and NJ kids unless they are serious about our school again. I frankly hear more about SU in the DC area than I ever did when I lived in NYC for 10 years, unless it was basketball that is, and SU is just as prominent here in the DC area with that as well. As for top talent that chose to shun us, where are they now? 2011 : Ishaq Williams, ND 3rd year, projected back up CAT LB or 3rd Down DE (Starts: ZERO) Needs a break out year according to the Blue and Gold in 2013. Unlikely to replace Shembo at CAT, so Kelly trying to find someplace to put him in, otherwise more of the same as last year for Williams. 2012: Jaron Jones, ND 2nd year RS Freshmen, projected to possibly compete at DE (Has not played) Came in a little over weight in spring camp at 305. Too big and slow at DE at that size, IMO, especially in a 3-4. 2013: EO, Clemson, TBD when he plays, early enrolle, projected to compete for DE/LB and Special Teams Honorable Mention: AE (2013) Not in the same class as those above, Miami, FB, projected (fall arrival) Yes, thats FB, not a position AE said he wanted to play, intresting to see how that turns out. So another words, what have we really lost except for our pride in keeping top local talent in the state? So far, not all that much. These guys may turn out to be awesome, but the general view of NY Talent is simple, they are behind the "S" curve and need more development time. Of late, that has shown to be true with Williams and so far Jones who was redshirted last year. That is the chance these kids take going to these schools over SU. Highly likely Williams would have been a full starter here, no question in my mind on that one, but the big question is at ND as he starts his 3rd year. So, another words, I agree with OrangeMojo on this one, lets keep focused on the big picture and not a couple of local prospects. Now, that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see this kid come here......winning and being nationally respected again would take care of most of that. [/QUOTE]

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