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Message: [QUOTE="bothsocksup, post: 867916, member: 359"] Im surprised Syracuse isnt in a better standing with Holley. Acc school on the rise, where numerous down state prospects have had success in turning around a once proud program. Excellent education, outstanding coaches, and most important, a chance to play early against some of the best competition in America. What more could you want? Whats the obsession with being a small fish in a big pond when you can make a name for yourself and be seen at a place like SU? Its an equation that has proven to work, ie Jones' bros (albeit no nearly as highly recruited). Theyre is a saying that is used often in college sports, "If you're good enough, scouts will find you." How well has the Ishaq mentality worked out for the highly ranked downstate talent? Anyhow, rant over..but im just so surprised Syracuse hasnt been able to break through... especially after 3 bowl win in 4 years. Give me a break [/QUOTE]