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Message: [QUOTE="boog7, post: 184217, member: 809"] Both Palmer and Leak were 5 star recruits coming out of HS that were TALENTED enough to go to any school in the country. CP has had a long career in the NFL as a starting QB. Norman Chow may have helped refine his talent but Carson Palmer was going to be a pro with or without Norm Chow. To compare those to enormously talented prospects to a lightly recruited 2 star like Nassib is just silly. Ryan is what is he is which is very average. You can win with him in college but I doubt he has an NFL future. [/QUOTE]