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Tiebreakers

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Maybe I'm being a little optimistic here, but does anyone know what the tiebreakers are for multiple teams? I think it's combined record among the group, right? Or if two teams tie and they split the season series?

Gtown is a game ahead of us, Marquette, and Louisville. Just trying to see if there is a reasonable way that ends with us tied for first.
 
anyone know if we control our own destiny? if we win out we'd definitely finish ahead of marquette and lville since we play them again, and at worst tied with gtown. who would win the tiebreaker if cuse and gtown both finish 14-4?
 
MULTIPLE-TEAM TIE (3 or more teams)

1.
A) Teams are viewed as a “mini-conference” when comparing head-to-head results. The team with the
best record (as determined by winning percentage, even if unequal games) vs. the other teams in the miniconference
gains the advantage. If only two teams have the same best winning percentage in the miniconference,
the higher seed goes to the team winning the head-to-head series. If the two teams split their
two games, then proceed to Step 2 under Two-Way ties. To seed the remaining team(s) in this miniconference,
proceed to Paragraph B below. If three or more (but not all) teams have the same best winning
percentage in the original mini-conference, then those tied teams create a new mini-conference and follow
the same procedures as at the beginning of this paragraph. If all teams in the mini-conference have the
same mini-conference record, proceed to Step 2 below.

B) After the top team in a mini-conference is determined, the next team is ranked by its record in the
original mini-conference. If there are any remaining teams tied by their record in the mini-conference,
then head-to-head results will determine the higher seed. If the teams split two games, then proceed back
to the two-way tie breaking procedure. If there are at least three teams remaining tied by their record in
the mini-conference, they would then form a new mini-conference and follow the procedure again at the
beginning of Step 1 (Multiple-Team Tie).

2. Compare each team’s record vs. the team or group of tied teams occupying the highest position in the
standings. Continue down through the standings until one team gains an advantage. When comparing
records against a single team or collective tied teams (before ties are broken), the following may apply:
a. The games played against the team or group are equal, winning percentage prevails.
b. If the games played against the team or group are unequal, the following scenarios apply:
1) Most wins do prevail only if the team(s) with fewer wins could not equal that win total if they
played the same number of games. Two examples of many scenarios that do provide an advantage
1) Team A 2-0 2) Team A 3-1
Team B 1-1 Team B 1-2
Team C 0-1 Team C 1-2

2) Most wins do not prevail only if the team(s) with fewer wins could equal or surpass the win total
of the other team. Two examples of many scenarios that do not provide an advantage:
1) Team A 2-1 2) Team A 1-2
Team B 1-1 Team B 0-2
Team C 1-1 Team C 0-2

3) Fewer losses do not prevail if the team(s) have the same number of wins, but the team with fewer
games could equal or surpass the loss total of the other tied teams. Two examples of many scenarios
that do not provide an advantage:
1) Team A 2-0 2) Team A 0-2
Team B 2-1 Team B 0-3
Team C 2-1 Team C 0-3
If an advantage is not determined, proceed to the next team or group in the standings for comparison.

If the tie cannot be broken after continuing down through the last team or teams in the standings,
revert back to comparing records against the top teams in order and allow winning percentage to
prevail even if there is a comparison of unequal games. Only then, if the percentages are both 1.000,
than 2-0 is better than 1-0. However, the reverse is not true – no team gains advantage when all have a
.000 winning percentage (0-1 is never better than 0-2). __________________
 
Georgetown still plays UConn, Villanova and us. If we go 2-0 this week(big if, but I think we can) then all we would need is Georgetown to stumble against either @UConn or Villanova and beat them in D.C we win the Big East regular season title.
 
Georgetown still plays UConn, Villanova and us. If we go 2-0 this week(big if, but I think we can) then all we would need is Georgetown to stumble against either @UConn or Villanova and beat them in D.C we win the Big East regular season title.

Yeah Gtown has 2 tough roadies left. Could definitely see them dropping one. Of course, we need to take care of business...
 
i think tonite's game will tell us whether the final game against gtown will be for the regular season title or us needing a win just to get the double bye.
 
i think tonite's game will tell us whether the final game against gtown will be for the regular season title or us needing a win just to get the double bye.

Ugh, I hadn't even thought of this. Notre Dame still has to go to Marquette and Louisville, so they're going to lose at least another game or two. Pitt will probably run the table (USF and Nova at home, @Depaul) so they are probably getting to 12-6, so we'd need to get to 13-5, meaning we could only lose one more game.

So I'm officially worried about this now.
 
Ugh, I hadn't even thought of this. Notre Dame still has to go to Marquette and Louisville, so they're going to lose at least another game or two. Pitt will probably run the table (USF and Nova at home, @Depaul) so they are probably getting to 12-6, so we'd need to get to 13-5, meaning we could only lose one more game.

So I'm officially worried about this now.

A win tonight washes the Saturday loss away and we would then be back on track.
 
A win tonight washes the Saturday loss away and we would then be back on track.

Agreed on that. Putting aside the fact that Gtown is a much bigger rival than Marquette, if I could have a split this weekend, I think Marquette is the better one for our BE chances. Just need to win tonight
 
anyone know if we control our own destiny? if we win out we'd definitely finish ahead of marquette and lville since we play them again, and at worst tied with gtown. who would win the tiebreaker if cuse and gtown both finish 14-4?
I would think we would because that means we were 4-1 against GTown/Quette/UL. I'm pretty sure GTown lost to Marquette which would give them 2 losses against us/MU/UL.
 
I would think we would because that means we were 4-1 against GTown/Quette/UL. I'm pretty sure GTown lost to Marquette which would give them 2 losses against us/MU/UL.

I think we'd be ok. I believe they go down the standings to break the tie, so it would first go to the third place team, then 4th, etc. Assuming Louisville and Marquette are 3 and 4, in either order, we should be ok. From what was posted above, if Lville was third, 2-0 against them wouldn't beat 1-0 for Gtown, but 1-0 vs Marquette would beat 0-1 for Gtown.
 

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