Time to re-examine the one-and-done rule?

[dasher]

Interesting article from ESPN. College basketball attendance has been trending down for the last 8 years. There is more parity and fewer truly "great" teams. Personally, I think that the player turnover is getting excessive, making it hard to know the players on the teams from year to year. Loss of continuity makes it hard for fans to care as much.

Maybe it's time for the NCAA to re-examine the one-and-done rule. Let kids declare for the draft right out of HS again, but if they go to college, make them stay 3 years, like baseball does, and maybe we'll see the return of college basketball as a great sport for the fans.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14640159/the-floor-this-parity-bad-basketball

The NCAA can't tell the NBA what to do. And the NBA doesn't care about what is good for the NCAA. That is obvious.

 

[Briancuse]

Don't know how you can just count out a team that has Durant and Westbrook, a team that has Chris Paul surrounded by talent, Harden and Howard. That's just a lazy statement.

The clippers will never win anything, same for Dwight Howard. I will tell you what, I will give you 100 bucks if someone other than the Spurs, Warriors, or Cavs win the title.

 

[SWC75]

But the goal isn't a degree, it's a ticket to the NBA.

If we don't acknowledge that, we're not being honest.

This system isn't for us. We are spectators. It's real life for them. I respectfully disagree with your take.

Not if players can go right to pro basketball to start with. The guys who go to college would be the guys who want a college education.

 

[two3zone]

The clippers will never win anything, same for Dwight Howard. I will tell you what, I will give you 100 bucks if someone other than the Spurs, Warriors, or Cavs win the title.

I will quote this to save this and if it happens I shall donate the $100 dollars to a worthy SU athletics related cause.

 

[HOFCeluck]

The 80s were basically two teams trading the title back and forth, and the titles in the nineties were all but won by one guy.

Parity has never really been the NBAs thing.

 

[kirbivore]

The 80s were basically two teams trading the title back and forth, and the titles in the nineties were all but won by one guy.

Parity has never really been the NBAs thing.

Here's the nba champs since 1980: Lakers, Celtics, 76ers, pistons, bulls, rockets, spurs, heat, mavericks, warriors

 

[AlaskaSU]

no the players just the ones who have earned it.
why does this job have to pay them for ever? its only in the last 30 years that contracts got out of wack..
and i have no problem with owners making billions and players making far less..
no player is worth 20 million a year in any sport. if a player only plays 5 years and then has to find a new career is that a bad thing?

its called supply and demand

 

[AlaskaSU]

a two or three year requirement for those that do not go pro out of HS is good for college ball and its fans but it is not good for the players.

 

[upperdeck]

its called supply and demand

doesnt mean its right, nor right for the sport.. and its apples and oranges to say anyone else in any profession can do what they want because thats not true in most jobs either.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Well, they would have a choice, just like the baseball draft. Either go pro out of high school, or if you enroll in college, you aren't eligible for the draft until after your junior year. It hasn't hurt baseball. It would probably improve the product for both the NBA and the NCAA.

Actually, you can leave college, go to jc, then get drafted in year 2, as Alex Fernandez did.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I like the concept, the problem is any new rule has to be approved by the players association. I wonder if they would view that as "too risky" to prospective future pros.

FWIW Adam Silver wants a two year rule, but again that could automatically take two years of wages away from said talented player.

With limited roster and salary cap, the wages will be relatively the same.

 

[retro44]

What is the bankruptcy rate for pro basket ball players now vs. the 4 year players of the 80's and early 90's?

I guess that the players who have their degree before playing in the pro's has a much lower rate vs. the money chasers where street agents and Nike reps who are in their ears.

 

[AlaskaSU]

doesnt mean its right, nor right for the sport.. and its apples and oranges to say anyone else in any profession can do what they want because thats not true in most jobs either.

We are not a socialist nation. How much a basketball player gets paid is none of your business; it is not subject to popular vote. Its not your money. It is the owners money. If you don't like it, don't buy a ticket or pay for cable. Name me a job where the pay is not ultimately set by the person that pays the bill. If you want a command economy with price fixing, move to Cuba, Venezuela, or Russia, or vote for the Bern.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Honestly I wish people would just drop the pretense and say they only care about their entertainment and how many wins SU can get in a year.

 

[cuseguy]

Honestly I wish people would just drop the pretense and say they only care about their entertainment and how many wins SU can get in a year.

You're right.

I've lost a lot of interest in SU basketball -- and college basketball -- since the 1 and done has taken over the game. And I know I'm not alone.

I can't imagine that's good for the game.

 

[Briancuse]

You're right.

I've lost a lot of interest in SU basketball -- and college basketball -- since the 1 and done has taken over the game. And I know I'm not alone.

I can't imagine that's good for the game.

My interest in Su Bball has never been higher, but the one and done rule has soured me on the sport. I used to binge watch college basketball, now I really just watch our games and catch bits and pieces of other games, until march rolls around.

 

[Fly Rodder]

My only complaint with the one and done (and college basketball recruiting in general) is that the journalists aren't really getting into the story, but continue to peddle some goofy crap about how it's so amazing how KU, UK, and Duke continue to get these fantastic recruiting classes. UK isn't getting 4 out of the top 15 every year just because Calipari is charming sonofagun. Stop pretending like its 1950 and the game is some paramount of amateur athletics. More honesty would go a long way. Shaq on LSU: "... they paid very well." And that Duke player who bought $100k worth of jewelry ... how?

 

[Knicks411]

My only complaint with the one and done (and college basketball recruiting in general) is that the journalists aren't really getting into the story, but continue to peddle some goofy crap about how it's so amazing how KU, UK, and Duke continue to get these fantastic recruiting classes. UK isn't getting 4 out of the top 15 every year just because Calipari is charming sonofagun. Stop pretending like its 1950 and the game is some paramount of amateur athletics. More honesty would go a long way. Shaq on LSU: "... they paid very well." And that Duke player who bought $100k worth of jewelry ... how?

The only issue I'd take with this is the bolded; I doubt the game has ever been like that. As long as there are have been college sports, there have been people paying for their school to succeed at them.

 

[Fly Rodder]

The only issue I'd take with this is the bolded; I doubt the game has ever been like that. As long as there are have been college sports, there have been people paying for their school to succeed at them.

Yeah, you're probably right ... but they paint that picture that it's some squeaky clean game out of a Rockwell painting.

 

[realorange]

Does any other profession get billion dollar TV deals, injury risk that can effect future earnings? These guys careers are limited due to their being younger, stronger, more athletic guys coming in, they need these big contracts to be able to have security for a long time.

If you did pay them a low wage in the beginning, where does the money go? The owners?

Which ever direction it goes, it still means taking out a small loan to take the family to a game.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Which ever direction it goes, it still means taking out a small loan to take the family to a game.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybr...ulls-and-cavaliers-lead-the-way/#6c8a5f953e7f

 

[upperdeck]

We are not a socialist nation. How much a basketball player gets paid is none of your business; it is not subject to popular vote. Its not your money. It is the owners money. If you don't like it, don't buy a ticket or pay for cable. Name me a job where the pay is not ultimately set by the person that pays the bill. If you want a command economy with price fixing, move to Cuba, Venezuela, or Russia, or vote for the Bern.

the discussion is what is best for the sport , what is best for the player might be vastly different.. you could also argue though that being best for the 1 and done player might not be best for the players as a whole. isnt that what america is about, trying to best for the country not just for the single person?

owners, unions who think small picture is the reason the avg person cant afford to go to games and attendance is down just as much as HD tv..

 

[HOFCeluck]

the discussion is what is best for the sport , what is best for the player might be vastly different.. you could also argue though that being best for the 1 and done player might not be best for the players as a whole. isnt that what america is about, trying to best for the country not just for the single person?

owners, unions who think small picture is the reason the avg person cant afford to go to games and attendance is down just as much as HD tv..

The NBA just set an all time attendance record last season, and signed a massive TV deal.

 

[Knicks411]

The NBA just set an all time attendance record last season, and signed a massive TV deal.

yeah but attendance SEEMS down, isn't that more important?

the tv deal was insane; i think it was 3 times larger than the old one?

 

[HOFCeluck]

yeah but attendance SEEMS down, isn't that more important?

the tv deal was insane; i think it was 3 times larger than the old one?

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/06/media/nba-tv-deal/index.html

The new deal is 24 bil, 9 years. The last one was 7 bil, 8 years I believe.

Forget attendance numbers. With HD and ESPN3 etc, this where the money is.