To Keep Up with the Arms Race

[AlaskaSU]

we need a palatial athletes dorm (wink wink 51% regular students). You cannot stand still in this business. Someone else, in this case Kentucky and Kansas, is always upping the ante. I seem to recall that there might be something in the works and that JB is involved. Anyone have any info?

For anyone out there needing an econ thesis; college basketball is a classic study of price control. Since wages are fixed at very low rates, competition takes the form of other expenditures, facilities in this case.

 

[Brooky03]

I heard it's going to be attached to the side of the Dome that's not going to be attached to a hotel or academic building during the renovation

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

The kids love the apartments

 

[bballbeadle]

I'm not sure where our student athletes are housed, but those apartments on Colvin look very nice. Are they in there?

 

[AlaskaSU]

Do people realize what we are up against?

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/co...apartment-complex-for-basketball-players.html

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/kentuckys-housing-chef-flat-screens/153247

 

[MG44]

Do people realize what we are up against?

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/co...apartment-complex-for-basketball-players.html

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/kentuckys-housing-chef-flat-screens/153247

I doubt there's 1 single person on this board that wouldnt love to see something like this built...but you do realize we were 20yrs behind other schools in getting an IPF built right? Unfortunately I doubt SU will be much faster keeping up with an athlete dorm.

 

[HoustonCuse]

we need a palatial athletes dorm (wink wink 51% regular students). You cannot stand still in this business. Someone else, in this case Kentucky and Kansas, is always upping the ante. I seem to recall that there might be something in the works and that JB is involved. Anyone have any info?

For anyone out there needing an econ thesis; college basketball is a classic study of price control. Since wages are fixed at very low rates, competition takes the form of other expenditures, facilities in this case.

I think the project Boeheim is involved in is a normal real estate investment. It is just a regular apartment building as I understand it.

 

[Dave85]

we need a palatial athletes dorm (wink wink 51% regular students). You cannot stand still in this business. Someone else, in this case Kentucky and Kansas, is always upping the ante. I seem to recall that there might be something in the works and that JB is involved. Anyone have any info?

For anyone out there needing an econ thesis; college basketball is a classic study of price control. Since wages are fixed at very low rates, competition takes the form of other expenditures, facilities in this case.

Louisville dorms come with live-in maids.

 

[CuseHulk]

All for it.

And don't give me we don't have the money. Syracuse U has more money then they let on. They just choose to be cheap when it comes to Athletics for some reason.

 

[rrlbees]

All for it. And don't give me we don't have the money. Syracuse U has more money then they let on. They just choose to be cheap when it comes to Athletics for some reason.

Wrong

 

[Dave85]

Wrong

It depends on your definition of what it means to have money:

http://comptroller.syr.edu/comptroller/uploads/2014_Annual_Report.pdf

 

[rrlbees]

It depends on your definition of what it means to have money: http://comptroller.syr.edu/comptroller/uploads/2014_Annual_Report.pdf

If I donate for academics or a new academic building, I expect that money to go there. You can't just look at how much money a university has or spent on buildings and say use it for athletics. It doesn't work that way. And most people who give to a university give for academic reasons. Athletics is very small in comparison.

 

[CuseHulk]

It doesn't work that way. And most people who give to a university give for academic reasons. Athletics is very small in comparison.

Sorry. People who give to U Texas don't give for first academic reasons.

 

[orange79]

Sorry. People who give to U Texas don't give for first academic reasons.

And you know this...how? Do you know UT's academic endowment? Over $25 billion. That's Billion - with a B. It is bigger that Yale's. Sorry.

 

[rrlbees]

Sorry. People who give to U Texas don't give for first academic reasons.

Well there you have it. You're so wrong.

 

[cuseattle]

The University of Washington here also has about a 2.5 billion dollar endowment. All the sports related gifts come from different specific donors, but their facilities are great. The football stadium gets the most, but basketball venue is top notch though small.

 

[SWC75]

 

[cuseinchina]

People think south campus is some kind of selling point. I guess relative to some schools it would be, but really those apartments are about the quality level of a bad subsidized housing project. I was a poor kid so I would have hated the idea that I am going to float when I was at SU...but our peer institutions doing this (BU comes to mind first) and it just makes sense on multiple levels...You can redevelop part of south campus into luxury apartments, put the athletes in half of them and fill the other half with kids willing and able to pay more for better housing. Build in some retail amenities (juice bars, spa/hair salon - sorry garbos, and health club that caters to these rich kids. There are a bunch of kids who will be able to pay and will want to pay...right now those kids are just moving to certain developments off campus. Better to capture the revenue by keeping them on campus and as an ancillary benefit we have a new 'hook' for recruiting athletes. I don't know how this would work with the cost of attendance calculations etc - but there must be some 'fuzzy math' to get around that.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

It depends on your definition of what it means to have money:

http://comptroller.syr.edu/comptroller/uploads/2014_Annual_Report.pdf

Don King said that if you can count your money, you don't have any.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Is that a rendering of the new SU dorms or a random shout-out to Christopher reeve

 

[SWC75]

Is that a rendering of the new SU dorms or a random shout-out to Christopher reeve

It's a jab at the notion that a "palatial athletes dorm" will turn our players into Superman.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Duke:
Fairly successful program.
Players live in dorms.
They actually make regular friends.
Like college students.
What a concept.

 

[FrancoPizza]

It's a jab at the notion that a "palatial athletes dorm" will turn our players into Superman.

Ah, but I don't think that's the premise. I think the hypothesis should be: does Superman prefer palatial living arrangements?

 

[HoustonCuse]

Duke:
Fairly successful program.
Players live in dorms.
They actually make regular friends.
Like college students.
What a concept.

I'm not sure the "if it works for Duke, it will work for everyone" argument is too sound. Along with Duke having athletes in normal dorms is every team in the Bottom 200 of the RPI! It is a simple fact that the more these amenities you have, the more likely you are to land top players. Duke is an exception to just about everything. Syracuse is not. The Melo Center has been a big boost. Special highfalutin dorms for players would be also.