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[Bill Orange]

Izzo blasts NCAA for 'ridiculous' G League ruling

In the wake of two former G League players committing to play for Division I schools, Michigan State coach Tom Izzo sounded off Tuesday on the NCAA powerbrokers who've allowed those moves to happen.

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[Oakland]

Hard to see what the NCAA stands for anymore.

 

[orangemass]

He’s not wrong. Let’s suit up Wes Johnson

 

[PeteCalvin]

Izzo blasts NCAA for 'ridiculous' G League ruling

In the wake of two former G League players committing to play for Division I schools, Michigan State coach Tom Izzo sounded off Tuesday on the NCAA powerbrokers who've allowed those moves to happen.

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Izzo nailed it. This is ridiculous and screams shady lawyering tactics to leverage the spineless NCAA. I think someone should bring a class action case against the NCAA on behalf of HS athletes who could miss potential future opportunities because of this madness. Maybe that will wake them up.

If you go professional, the door should be closed to competing in college. Period. Gotta close this door now or make it VERY difficult get approved for a one time hardship.

Or, just say the heck with it and tell HS kids to go pro. The top few players from every class may make it, but the rest will have to fall back on college. Tell the kids that if they come in from the G League, etc, they get 2 years and no transfer unless a coach leaves. Need to make it a less enticing route to go pro.

 

[Conrad13]

Hard to see what the NCAA stands for anymore.

I'm not necessarily opposed to to the transfer and NIL rules, it's how they were they were implemented. Instead of coming up with a thoughtful plan that balanced the best interests of the athletes and the institutions, the NCAA resisted until they thought they would lose in court and then let players and schools do whatever they wanted. Now we have a system that has fewer rules than the pro leagues and a far worse product on the field/court.

 

[CardiacCuse]

might as well just separate NCAABB from academics 100% and make the schools manage their teams as fully professional organizations at this point. stop the charade.

if players want a degree thats fine...but I would assume a lot of them wouldnt even bother, which would also be fine.

just make it fully pro

 

[cuseallday]

That quote from Coach was on point. Totally ridiculous that this can occur.

 

[HakAttack]

might as well just separate NCAABB from academics 100% and make the schools manage their teams as fully professional organizations at this point. stop the charade.

if players want a degree thats fine...but I would assume a lot of them wouldnt even bother, which would also be fine.

just make it fully pro

this. It should have been done this way decades ago.

 

[ClamOtto]

It's ironic that the NCAA spent decades acting with impunity, developing and selectively enforcing arbitrary rules (as SU fans know all too well). Then they get sued and lose, and now they're apparently so terrified of more lawsuits - and the eventual P4 breakaway - that they've basically stopped developing or enforcing any rules. The NCAA really needs to look in the mirror and figure out why they exist, what they stand for, and what they actually want college athletics to look like.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So... when you look at the current student populations in higher education you see a lot of non-traditional students, continuing ed, etc.

With the student body demographics changing, why can't that also apply to student-athletes.l? What's the difference between a person that graduates high school, works for ten years, and decided to go back for a degree and is able to get a scholarship to do so, and a guy that graduates high school, does two years in the G league, plays for a few years in Europe, can't make money as a professional basketball player anymore, so chooses to go to school to get a degree and is able to get a scholarship to play basketball to do so?

You'll probably say they're not an amateur anymore. And you're right. But we don't have amateurs now. So I ask again, what's the difference?

Having student-athletes like this would raise the talent level and level of play of college basketball. And we might even find that they provide a lot of roster stability. There's a good chance a lot of these guys aren't mercenaries and would use their full eligibility on their way to a degree. Some institutions could get a competitive advantage by making themselves appealing to guys that want to settle in for a while. They might even be great mentors and "coaches on the floor" to the guys that are on a traditional college timeline. These would all be positives for college hoops.

 

[cuseincincy]

So... when you look at the current student populations in higher education you see a lot of non-traditional students, continuing ed, etc.

With the student body demographics changing, why can't that also apply to student-athletes.l? What's the difference between a person that graduates high school, works for ten years, and decided to go back for a degree and is able to get a scholarship to do so, and a guy that graduates high school, does two years in the G league, plays for a few years in Europe, can't make money as a professional basketball player anymore, so chooses to go to school to get a degree and is able to get a scholarship to play basketball to do so?

You'll probably say they're not an amateur anymore. And you're right. But we don't have amateurs now. So I ask again, what's the difference?

Having student-athletes like this would raise the talent level and level of play of college basketball. And we might even find that they provide a lot of roster stability. There's a good chance a lot of these guys aren't mercenaries and would use their full eligibility on their way to a degree. Some institutions could get a competitive advantage by making themselves appealing to guys that want to settle in for a while. They might even be great mentors and "coaches on the floor" to the guys that are on a traditional college timeline. These would all be positives for college hoops.

Yep. One thing coach conveniently left out. Those 21, 22 year olds he's complaining about are someone's kids too. Their parents are hoping they can get an education and play more basketball too. Yeah they've been paid money playing basketball but they've also likely failed at that to an extent or they wouldn't be looking for another opportunity. Do we really want a potential education to not be an opportunity? Do we cringe because they've been paid likely less than some of the players already on the team were paid in NIL while in school? Landscape has changed.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Yep. One thing coach conveniently left out. Those 21, 22 year olds he's complaining about are someone's kids too. Their parents are hoping they can get an education and play more basketball too. Yeah they've been paid money playing basketball but they've also likely failed at that to an extent or they wouldn't be looking for another opportunity. Do we really want a potential education to not be an opportunity? Do we cringe because they've been paid likely less than some of the players already on the team were paid in NIL while in school? Landscape has changed.

Well said.

 

[sufandu]

Really, nothing in college sports makes sense anymore. That's why I don't care if these guys are allowed to play. People used to complain the NCAA regulated too much and should be stripped of their power. Now that they have been, people complain they're not regulating enough. Whatever. It's a free for all. Who cares. Red, start scouting the g-league.

 

[sufandu]

Yep. One thing coach conveniently left out. Those 21, 22 year olds he's complaining about are someone's kids too. Their parents are hoping they can get an education and play more basketball too. Yeah they've been paid money playing basketball but they've also likely failed at that to an extent or they wouldn't be looking for another opportunity. Do we really want a potential education to not be an opportunity? Do we cringe because they've been paid likely less than some of the players already on the team were paid in NIL while in school? Landscape has changed.

Nobody is saying they can't get an education, and everyone knows that's not why they suddenly decided to go to college. They're going to college to try to cash in on NIL because they can make more that way than they can as a failed pro. Having said that, and as I said above, who cares? Let them play.

 

[Cuse On 3]

Paging judah mintz

 

[baggerbob]

Paging judah mintz

I was going to say he could come back and learn to be a shooting guard and backup point guard playing a year with george.