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Message: [QUOTE="realorange, post: 243966, member: 292"] Two turnovers in 19 minutes. Wow! That would be 4 if he played 38 minutes. I'd take that most any day if he had the pts and assists to go with it, which he normally would. Triche is a much more animated and in your face defender. Dion, as Bees said, tries for the steals and consequently picks up at least 50% of his fouls on reachins. Dion also will just plain stand and look at others defending instead of moving to stay ready. He depends on his quick reaction time which is usually good but too often late. Just watch almost any of our game tapes to see what I mean. [/QUOTE]