Tyler & Dylan Ennis

[anomander]

Jamacian Irish is a pretty sweet mix

 

[LennX6]

Anybody know the deal with how exactly Tyler and Dylan are related?

Are they full biological brothers?

Their dad looks Caucasian and their mom African-American. Dylan is obviously much darker than Tyler and their dad's last name is McIntyre.

Don't start railing at me for being ignorant or racist. I'm simply curious. It's the dad's last name that sparked the question.

If we are patient, about Tyler's early junior year, the SubStandard will do a human interest story on Tyler and share the answer to the world!

 

[LennX6]

Tyler Cameron Ennis was born in August of 1994 in Toronto, Ontario … He is the son of Tony McIntyre and Suzette Ennis McIntyre … Has five siblings
http://suathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=10335&path=mbasket

Reading this, made me want to see the last 10 minutes of the Carelton game and compare that to what we see now. Talk about taking a team on your back, that's what Tyler did that game.

 

[TerryM]

Anybody know the deal with how exactly Tyler and Dylan are related?

Are they full biological brothers?

Their dad looks Caucasian and their mom African-American. Dylan is obviously much darker than Tyler and their dad's last name is McIntyre.

Don't start railing at me for being ignorant or racist. I'm simply curious. It's the dad's last name that sparked the question.

Holy smokes. Next thing you know well be making fun of the native americans chillin in Red Lobster

 

[Rocco]

Awesome article from the Daily Orange (Nov 7th) that I never saw before... Many quotes and references to Tony McIntyre as his father, too. Here's the first paragraph, I strongly recommend reading the whole article:

Throughout Tyler Ennis’ childhood, his father — and often his coach — Tony McIntyre would ask him the same series of questions.
Do you even like basketball? Are you sure? Why don’t you show it on the court?
For years, McIntyre failed to see the competitive fire in his son’s game. Tyler would play up on his older brother’s teams. Dylan, two years ahead of Tyler, and Brandon, four ahead, were fiercer on the court.
McIntyre wondered if Tyler felt pressured to play the sport that controlled the family’s everyday life. It wasn’t that Tyler was passive. He was outgoing off the court, just not exclamatory on it. There was never any yelling. There was never frustration after a mistake or celebration after a success.


http://dailyorange.com/2013/11/smoo...ering-nerve-as-point-guard-for-no-8-syracuse/

 

[tee1222]

Awesome article from the Daily Orange (Nov 7th) that I never saw before... Many quotes and references to Tony McIntyre as his father, too. Here's the first paragraph, I strongly recommend reading the whole article:

Throughout Tyler Ennis’ childhood, his father — and often his coach — Tony McIntyre would ask him the same series of questions.
Do you even like basketball? Are you sure? Why don’t you show it on the court?
For years, McIntyre failed to see the competitive fire in his son’s game. Tyler would play up on his older brother’s teams. Dylan, two years ahead of Tyler, and Brandon, four ahead, were fiercer on the court.
McIntyre wondered if Tyler felt pressured to play the sport that controlled the family’s everyday life. It wasn’t that Tyler was passive. He was outgoing off the court, just not exclamatory on it. There was never any yelling. There was never frustration after a mistake or celebration after a success.


http://dailyorange.com/2013/11/smoo...ering-nerve-as-point-guard-for-no-8-syracuse/

Funny you mention this. During the exhibition games in Canada, there was a point (pretty sure he wasn't having a great game) that someone mentioned he's too blah out there and needs fire. Kid is just chill. Doesn't mean he's not competitive and not invested in winning. All the interviews I've seen of him, he doesn't spew out the same "we're going to go out there, respond to adversity, blah blah". He's so calm in the moment, he usually says something of substance.

Unlike my yappity rant right here.

 

[LennX6]

Search also on YouTube, for "Tyler Ennis St. Benedict's" and you will get a lot of cool pre-SU info.

 

[PASyrFan]

There is definitely a resemblance between Tyler & McIntyre. Tyler definitely has his father's eyes. Go back & watch the video again. All cool. God bless the Ennis/McIntyre family,

 

[CusefanATL]

Since African American is not a race, and she is Canadian, I don't think that applies. She might be of Jamacian desent, as the elder Ennis played for the Jamcian national team.
Reminds me of the reporter who once called Nelson Mandela an African American.

kind of like saying the University of LSU
http://collegespun.com/sec/lsu/vide...hooses-university-of-lsu-at-under-armour-game

back to your point... you are saying that she is African Canadian? Was Mandela African African or African South African?

 

[AlaskaSU]

One thing I will just never understand is when a parent is not involved. Just can't understand that mentality.

Who cares? The parent that puts in the time is the real father and that is Suzette and Tony. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[edowd26]

Who cares? The parent that puts in the time is the real father and that is Suzette and Tony. Everything else is irrelevant.

I definitely agree but some kids aren't that fortunate. I was talking about anyone in particular. Just can't understand ever leaving your kid behind.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Understood. No problem.
Just pointing out the difference between the sperm donor and the parent.

 

[Dave85]

We are all brothers from another mother!

 

[CaptainJ]

I definitely agree but some kids aren't that fortunate. I was talking about anyone in particular. Just can't understand ever leaving your kid behind.

When one sees all the abusive or otherwise terrible parents/guardians out there(and that is just what we do know about, you wouldnt believe what goes on unnoticed), one could argue that under some circumstances the child would be more fortunate to have one or both parents leave. The state certainly seems to think so at times, warranted or not. Regardless if biological or not, Tyler seems to have been fortunate enough to have a good father in his life and with all this talk of lack of on court emotion, a special inner self as well.

On the Nelson Mandela thing and how ridiculous trying to be PC made the reporter look, you also have to understand there were white folks(I can get away with not being PC there, for some reasons) born in South Africa for quite some time now, and the confused reporter couldn't figure out the proper way to differentiate race based on their cultural conditioning. (As an aside: I'd imagine such conditioning and ensuing errors could exist even outside of language[and apply to all manner of things], and would imagine it to be a weak link for survival. Think of the quote used in Into The Wild, "To call each thing by it's right name", that was used to highlight the tragedy that ensued when Christopher/Alex[another name change] misidentified a plant). Anyhow, the reporter could have used the term that is used to describe white Africans, Afrikaners, but that likely would have confused at least some of their audience(I have no idea who the reporter worked for).

Some PC trivia for you all: In 2007, Charlize Theron became an African-American. Words are words, sometimes impotent, or worse yet can paint flawed pictures of reality.

Being the thread deals with name changes(or lack thereof) and being politically correct, the person who coined the term "politically correct" was Lev Davidovich Bronshtein, who changed his name to Leon Trotsky. The punishments for not being PC in his world were often imprisonment or death. Today those in power use that as a last resort, and understand that our minds themselves are the primary prisons, which are potentially buttressed by each word we use(likely the admonishment from Jesus that "what comes out of the mouth is more important than what goes in it"). That's something I intend to study more, feel free to respond here or PM if you have any recommendations for such.

I'm as curious as many others about the question in the OP, but I am fascinated by what makes Tyler different inside that translates into his on the court demeanor.

 

[Garbs]

We'll that clears that up.

So we can safely assume that Suzette Ennis is the biological mother of all 6 Ennis kids.

If we go by physical resemblance maybe we can assume that Brandon, Tyler, Brittany and the other two kids have the same biological father as well (big assumption since we've got nothing but physical resemblances, but...).

If that's the case and (another assumption), Tony McIntyre is the biological father of all of the kids except Dylan, then what happened between Brandon & Tyler?

And the last name thing is still bugging me as well.

like someone mentioned about Jamaica, I think Canada is similar in that it is common for children to take the mother's name

 

[Orange87]

I wish some journalist would just ask him what the deal is.

 

[CusefanATL]

I think I found the answer (if it wasnt already answered somewhere else)

Dylan Jonathan Ennis ... born Dec. 26, 1991 in Toronto, Canada ... son of Suzette Ennis and Jonathan Howell ... father is Tony McIntyre

http://www.villanova.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/dylan_ennis_812214.html

Tyler Cameron Ennis was born in August of 1994 in Toronto, Ontario … He is the son of Tony McIntyre and Suzette Ennis McIntyre

http://cuse.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=10335

Not that it matters much...

Funny that we had a 3 page thread... but no one went to the nova bio.


NEVERMIND :bat:

 

[jgeorge322]

Since African American is not a race, and she is Canadian, I don't think that applies. She might be of Jamacian desent, as the elder Ennis played for the Jamcian national team.
Reminds me of the reporter who once called Nelson Mandela an African American.

Well, i am fairly certain canada is in america. We dont call them african united states of american, so im going with she being african american. Also, most jamaicans that we think of are from african descent as well.

 

[SU2NASA]

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that they most likely have different dads, neither of which was the guy shown with their mom during the Nova game

If it does, I'm here.

 

[CorduroyG]

Why isn't he tyler mcintyre?

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Why isn't he tyler mcintyre?

See the earlier post in this thread regarding naming of children to Jamaican women.

 

[swish7]

It's a good and fair question. Curious as well.

It is not a racist question. I am not sure if it is a good or fair question or not. We may be curious, and all, but our curiosity might broach a subject that is very personal to them. So, we end up speculating and throwing stuff out there that is none of our business. We don't have a right to know. That said, I don't write this to bash the OP. He has the capacity to ask, and asked in a nice way.

I have a couple friends whose offspring are of mixed race. Everybody knows it, but nobody talks about it. It's their right to not want to talk about it. In both scenarios, the situation was such that the child was raised by a non-biological, but responsible father. The child was not raised by an indifferent, irresponsible father. In one case the mom had cheated, and in the other the mom was just young and made a mistake. Either way, it was never talked about. I have other friends that do talk about it. It's their prerogative.

 

[andyw715]

As far as taxes and such are concerned its much easier if they all have the same last name.

 

[TheLoonie]

Canadian here. For the record, "African-Canadian" is the commonly used term.

Not really sure how the Jamaican piece gets worked in, though.

 

[Pat Kelly]

See the earlier post in this thread regarding naming of children to Jamaican women.

I hate it when people do this, could you just tell the guy so he doesn't have to flip through pages looking for each little thing? Then politely tell him it'd already been answered