Tyler Ennis released by Los Angeles Lakers

[Trueblue25]

Loser organization.

Go Celtics.

 

[shandeezy7]

Knicks own their pick though. Winning only costs them a spot or two.
With Smith Jr. Fox, Monk there will be guys for the Knicks in the 5-8 range.
The Lakers lose their pick if it's not top 3. This win kills their margin for error in the lottery. The Lakers will need no teams below them to jump them or they lose it. At 2nd they could afford one team to jump them and keep the pick.

That's not necessarily true as to how the lottery works, is it? The top 3 picks are all determined via the ping pong balls. So a team with lower odds than the Lakers could jump them, but the Lakers could still get the #2 or #3 pick based on the ping pong ball combination. Obviously they would like to have more combinations so the likelihood of them picking top 3 is higher, but one team jumping them does not necessarily doom them.

 

[JLine]

The ping pong ball system is such a joke. Only thoughts I have. Consistently teams end up in basically the order they are already in coming into it. Completely rigged, and a farce. Lakers will probably be fine, if the league deems it so. Just go by record. Not much you can do about tanking.

But, you can't tell me the ping pong balls magically bounce in similar order to records. It's all a joke. The NBA just does it to decide who they want to have where at times.

 

[Ward]

The ping pong ball system is such a joke. Only thoughts I have. Consistently teams end up in basically the order they are already in coming into it. Completely rigged, and a farce. Lakers will probably be fine, if the league deems it so. Just go by record. Not much you can do about tanking.

But, you can't tell me the ping pong balls magically bounce in similar order to records. It's all a joke. The NBA just does it to decide who they want to have where at times.

But isn't that kinda the whole idea behind the ping pong balls in the first place?

 

[br801]

Ennis has been in double figures 5 out of the last 6 games.

So are you saying that the reports of his NBA demise that I often read here are greatly exaggerated?

 

[longislandcuse]

Yea, it would be a minor miracle to see the cash cow Lakers not get a Top 3 pick. No way that pick gets sent to a team nobody cares about that is just going to trade whoever they draft in 2-3 years anyway.

Good for Ennis! Hopefully hes auditioning for a permanent spot in the league.

 

[Cusefan0307]

So are you saying that the reports of his NBA demise that I often read here are greatly exaggerated?

I think he gets a second contract now.

 

[Melancer46]

The ping pong ball system is such a joke. Only thoughts I have. Consistently teams end up in basically the order they are already in coming into it. Completely rigged, and a farce. Lakers will probably be fine, if the league deems it so. Just go by record. Not much you can do about tanking.

But, you can't tell me the ping pong balls magically bounce in similar order to records. It's all a joke. The NBA just does it to decide who they want to have where at times.

This is kind of the point. It's a weighted system so of course the worst teams will generally get the top picks. The whole point is for it to not be a certainty that if you're the worst team, you get the first pick. The system has worked in that regard. Unfortunately, teams are still willing to tank to lock themselves into a top 4 pick.

 

[Ward]

This is kind of the point. It's a weighted system so of course the worst teams will generally get the top picks. The whole point is for it to not be a certainty that if you're the worst team, you get the first pick. The system has worked in that regard. Unfortunately, teams are still willing to tank to lock themselves into a top 4 pick.

I forget where I read it but maybe a year or two ago someone suggested changing the ordering odds from just the prior season to a composite of the worst records from the 3 previous seasons. The thought is that it is much harder to tank for 3 years than it is for one and helps collate a more accurate picture of who "needs" the help of a higher pick. That seemed like a pretty good idea but probably has collateral impacts I don't see.

 

[Alsacs]

Some solutions for the lottery is that the bottom 5 teams all have the same odds so bottom teams don't have incentive to tank.

All non-playoff teams have the same odds.

Having a tournament of the bottom teams for the picks.

The reason is the Lakers winning last night was bad for their franchise.

Last year was the first time in 20 years the 3 worst records got the top 3 picks in the lottery.

If the Lakers finish 3rd in the worst records that lottery night will be nerve wracking for Lakers fans.

 

[Newhouser]

I think he gets a second contract now.

You think with the Lakers or somebody else? I think it is going to be an interesting case. His recent body of work is very good, but he is still an unproven commodity in the league. Along with about 30 other guys I guess but Ennis is interesting.

 

[br801]

You think with the Lakers or somebody else? I think it is going to be an interesting case. His recent body of work is very good, but he is still an unproven commodity in the league. Along with about 30 other guys I guess but Ennis is interesting.

He's won't turn 23 until this summer, is three years in and has shown he can play solidly at this level as a second unit or deep bench guy. Plenty of NBA team will have interest in that sort of player.

 

[KaiserUEO]

wait a minute...Ennis is on the Lakers???

 

[Fly Rodder]

He's won't turn 23 until this summer, is three years in and has shown he can play solidly at this level as a second unit or deep bench guy. Plenty of NBA team will have interest in that sort of player.

Last month+ he's averaging 15.5 mpg and 18/6 per 40 while shooting 40.5% from three. That should get someone's attention.

 

[Melancer46]

Regarding the lottery, I personally don't think the system needs fixing. If they did want to tweak it, the idea that I would propose would be drawing a ping pong ball for all 14 lottery picks rather than just the top 3. You'd still have the worst teams picking towards the top more often than not, but at least then you wouldn't guarantee the worst team a top 4 pick anymore.

Most of the proposed changes to the lottery just move the goalposts of which teams would tank. For example, having the bottom 5 with even odds just means that teams would tank to try to finish in the bottom 5. A team around the 10th spot could easily decide tanking to get to the bottom 5 is better than pushing for the 8 seed in the playoffs and suddenly they have a very realistic chance at getting the #1 pick. Having all non-playoff teams with even odds would just mean there would be a frenzy of teams trying to miss the playoffs. And then the tournament idea is simply telling the worst teams that they can off and just pray that they draft well in the middle of the first round. The NBA doesn't want its worst teams to be stuck at the bottom of the league; they simply want to help them while simultaneously not encouraging them to be bad. A tournament solves one issue while greatly exacerbating the other.

 

[OrangeDW]

wait a minute...Ennis is on the Lakers???

He was traded to them at the trade deadline.

 

[shandeezy7]

Not gonna lie, his jumper looks pretty good and he's showing some aggressiveness that we haven't really seen from him, even at Syracuse. Hope he is able to latch on somewhere as a free agent this offseason.

 

[PauliePeppas]

Gonna have a very long career being a back up pg similar to Hart. As long as your not turnover prone and can facilitate/ hit open jumper you'll b fine as a backup

 

[Cusefan0307]

The Lakers jumped out to a 40-14 lead in this game with San Antonio starting everyone except Danny Green(Leonard only played 14 mins, but did start) and once they took the lead Walton benched Nance/Ingram/Clarkson to try and lose, but the young guys were able to pull it out with the Lakers trying everything to lose the game.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Some solutions for the lottery is that the bottom 5 teams all have the same odds so bottom teams don't have incentive to tank.

All non-playoff teams have the same odds.

Having a tournament of the bottom teams for the picks.

The reason is the Lakers winning last night was bad for their franchise.

Last year was the first time in 20 years the 3 worst records got the top 3 picks in the lottery.

If the Lakers finish 3rd in the worst records that lottery night will be nerve wracking for Lakers fans.

I'd include every team that doesn't make the playoffs in the lottery odds, with odds weighted in favor of the teams that didn't make the playoffs by record order, and have the lotto selection for all picks 1-14. After that the picks will go by record.

You could disincentive tanking by spreading the lotto odds out more, and you would also see circumstances where a good team lucks into a better than expected pick and has a chance to become even more competitive.

 

[BlackSquirrels]

Going into last night's game, the Spurs were almost locked into the #2 seed because all the Warriors needed to clinch #1 was another win or two.

Thus, if you're running the Spurs, wouldn't you prefer that the Lakers lose their draft pick to Philly to delay their rebuilding? SA also had an incentive to lose that game.

 

[orange2win]

I believe this is the first game he has ever started in the NBA. Played 39 minutes. Somebody has successfully lit a fire under him. Well done Tyler.

 

[OrangeDW]

I believe this is the first game he has ever started in the NBA. Played 39 minutes. Somebody has successfully lit a fire under him. Well done Tyler.

He started some games in Milwaukee last year.

He actually played ok last year. Then he went to Houston and got buried behind those veteran guards this year. The LA trade has been very good for him. 3 seasons, 4 teams but he's still only 22.

 

[jncuse]

The ping pong ball system is such a joke. Only thoughts I have. Consistently teams end up in basically the order they are already in coming into it. Completely rigged, and a farce. Lakers will probably be fine, if the league deems it so. Just go by record. Not much you can do about tanking.

But, you can't tell me the ping pong balls magically bounce in similar order to records. It's all a joke. The NBA just does it to decide who they want to have where at times.

The ping pong balls are only used to determine the top 3 picks. Everything else in the "lottery teams" from 4-14 is based on record.

 

[JLine]

The ping pong balls are only used to determine the top 3 picks. Everything else in the "lottery teams" from 4-14 is based on record.

Hmm, never knew that. I watch every year, and always thought that the 14th team had a shot to get the number 1 pick, hah. They make it seem like any team has a shot with all the suspense. Makes more sense now. If it's just top 3, then I don't see the point.