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Message: [QUOTE="manleyzoo, post: 2093780, member: 519"] Doesn't take trained eyes to see that the Pac 12's top to middle are way better than the WCC's top to middle. As a left coaster I get to see both conferences on tv a lot. It's easy to see the difference in quality between the two. On most nights the WCC isn't any better than a high mid-major. Far better athletes, better coaches, bigger arenas, just all around better in the Pac 12. Nothing wrong with the WCC but if you stack a Pac 12 bottom feeder against any team in the WCC other than the top two, maybe three in an unusual season, it's not even competitive. Can BYU compete every once in a while? Yes, but they're playing 25 year-olds for the most part. Now if you want to go back to USF's teams of Russell or Cartwright and Santa Clara's to the late 60s with Dennis Awtrey and the mid 80s with Kurt Rambis, well, that's a different story. [/QUOTE]