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Message: [QUOTE="nzm136, post: 2317028, member: 2531"] You're talking about a team. A brand is an ability to sell. Texas absolutely has that (not that you said that they didn't) A good team can win in a given year (everyone has these, depending on the year) A program is how long a school can keep its up when it has them, and it's how quickly it can weather its downs. Texas is far better positioned to perform well in this regard than Clemson. Clemson has had better teams over the last decade because Texas has been down, and because Clemson has one of its best coaches ever. But I would expect Texas to win more than they lose against Clemson in the long run. They have a better past, and they have better organizational infrastructure on the whole (vs a pound for pound level) [/QUOTE]