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Message: [QUOTE="orangehipfan, post: 2838154, member: 406"] I said we caught a break in 2016 when the 2 seed got upset, and then took advantage of it, congrats to the team. The four game run to the final four in the last 5 seasons has been really one of only few bright spots in the last 5 years. I think even you would agree the trend is not one of an elite, consistent program. The big question is does it get better. I think we need 11 - 12 ACC wins this year to whiff the NCAA tournament, 8 -10 is not doing this year. 10 - 8 with no wins over UVA, UNC, Duke won't cut it. We have no room for error. You do seem to be connected tot he program and I am interested in your take on next year, ie - Battle & Brissett, freshman impact etc. [/QUOTE]