University of Maryland launched extensive PR campaign to change impressions about Big Ten move

[Alsacs]

This is funny Maryland is having to play defense with its move to the B1G. These emails are funny.

B1G-Maryland

 

[SU2NASA]

Maryland is going to regret this move.

 

[orangeinjersey]

link doesnt work

 

[Alsacs]

Here is the link

 

[rrlbees]

Pretty funny that they were posting in message boards to get a certain message out. We've had that happen here.


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[OrangePA]

Maryland is going to regret this move.

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

 

[PhatOrange]

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

Do you think West Virginia regrets their move?

Maybe in 10 years they'll get the AD back in the black but money doesn't guarantee success. And Maryland already had access to big time football programs.

 

[TheCusian]

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

Outside of the money - and even that isn't that much of a difference (plus they are being phased in over time) - I don't see any upside at all. They have games against big time football programs in FSU and Clemson. It's further from their geographic area (think WVU travel miles - not as many - but still not NC, SC, FL). They lose natural rivalries and common sense new rivalries (like us). They will be a bottom feeder, maybe a few steps above Rutgirls and Indiana.

 

[Alsacs]

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

I will give my answer and let NASA give his, but I think Maryland will regret the move because while they weren't the most powerful team in the ACC they were a founding member and had history for over 60 years with Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, and Clemson and while they weren't calling the shots in the ACC they were respected and treated as equals.

In the B1G they will not have any power and will basically be used as cannon fodder for Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State to get an additional game on the East Coast and will have to recruit in a different portion of the country. Maryland will be paid handsomely for their move, but the move they made was like being a named senior partner at one law firm and making decent money, but have moved onto a bigger law firm as a junior partner and will make more money, but will never have more influence in their new law firm.

I feel like they had the right to make the move, but Maryland is more of a basketball school than a football school and B1G hoops is not the same as ACC hoops. I wish them well, and they only moved because NC State AD Debbie Yow destroyed their AD and they needed the cash to keep their AD afloat.

 

[OrangePA]

I will give my answer and let NASA give his, but I think Maryland will regret the move because while they weren't the most powerful team in the ACC they were a founding member and had history for over 60 years with Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, and Clemson and while they weren't calling the shots in the ACC they were respected and treated as equals.

In the B1G they will not have any power and will basically be used as cannon fodder for Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State to get an additional game on the East Coast and will have to recruit in a different portion of the country. Maryland will be paid handsomely for their move, but the move they made was like being a named senior partner at one law firm and making decent money, but have moved onto a bigger law firm as a junior partner and will make more money, but will never have more influence in their new law firm.

I feel like they had the right to make the move, but Maryland is more of a basketball school than a football school and B1G hoops is not the same as ACC hoops. I wish them well, and they only moved because NC State AD Debbie Yow destroyed their AD and they needed the cash to keep their AD afloat.

I agree that MD fits the ACC and not the Big.

But I guess these days money is the only real factor.

And I suspect that the Big will be good for MD in that respect.

I would prefer that MD stay put, but the reality is what it is.

 

[javadoc]

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

Townie has made a pretty good case for why.

 

[Btstimpy]

This is funny Maryland is having to play defense with its move to the B1G. These emails are funny.

B1G-Maryland

I just thank my lucky stars that Virginia is not having to go through this crap. The Big Ten is a Midwestern Conference. Eastern Schools don't belong in it including Penn State, and they won't have a positive experience in it. All you have to do is ask Penn State fans to confirm this. Maryland can jump off a bridge at this point as far as I'm concerned. Just pay the exit fee and leave.

 

[Alsacs]

I just thank my lucky stars that Virginia is not having to go through this crap. The Big Ten is a Midwestern Conference. Eastern Schools don't belong in it including Penn State, and they won't have a positive experience in it. All you have to do is ask Penn State fans to confirm this. Maryland can jump off a bridge at this point as far as I'm concerned. Just pay the exit fee and leave.

Yeah, Maryland really needed the money its just that simple. Maryland sold out so they could keep their AD afloat. Maryland law precluded them from being able to pass their AD loses onto the Maryland student body General Fund like Rutgers and a bunch of schools do to subsidize their AD. Maryland had no choice to take the B1G money or gut several Athletic programs. Debbie Yow spent like a drunken sailor on expanding Byrd Stadium and really left the Maryland AD office in shambles.

Virginia and North Carolina the other targets of the B1G have healthy AD offices and aren't going to leave being named partners in the ACC to become associates/junior partners in the B1G. The ACC will pay out its members mid 20 million a dollars a year the B1G after 2016 will likely pay 30 to 35 million a year. That money isn't worth changing your identity unless you really need the money. As Nole_Lou has said the ACC's biggest problem is the easiest to fix which is winning games. The ACC has better demos/recruits for the future, and the B1G can't fix these demos. If the ACC wins then the money will be their in the next contract.

 

[WoadBlue]

I will give my answer and let NASA give his, but I think Maryland will regret the move because while they weren't the most powerful team in the ACC they were a founding member and had history for over 60 years with Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, and Clemson and while they weren't calling the shots in the ACC they were respected and treated as equals.

In the B1G they will not have any power and will basically be used as cannon fodder for Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State to get an additional game on the East Coast and will have to recruit in a different portion of the country. Maryland will be paid handsomely for their move, but the move they made was like being a named senior partner at one law firm and making decent money, but have moved onto a bigger law firm as a junior partner and will make more money, but will never have more influence in their new law firm.

I feel like they had the right to make the move, but Maryland is more of a basketball school than a football school and B1G hoops is not the same as ACC hoops. I wish them well, and they only moved because NC State AD Debbie Yow destroyed their AD and they needed the cash to keep their AD afloat.

That's a good analogy.

In revenue sports, MD area folk, in DC as well as past Baltimore, care for the NFL at least 10 times more than they care for college football. And that includes the fact that ND is more popular than Terps football. As for basketball - Terps fans care very little about beating anybody but NC teams, especially Dook and UNC.

There is no reason to believe that Twerps football will see any sustained increase in fans by playing a Big Ten schedule, and I would not be shocked if Twerp basketball tickets become easier to get.

As for this news - I noticed then the oddity of alleged Maryland fans coming from nowhere (say, names you might have seen as posters a couple of time now posting very often) to bash the ACC and then, after the move was made public, to praise the move and assert that the ACC would be gutted anyway.

Surely we had the same thing from the Big Ten. In the 3 years or so leading up to that BT expansion, I had often noted, especially on Penn St boards, that the BT would not get UNC and UVA; that the best the BT could do would be UConn and Rutgers, with Maryland a distant possibility. BT fans were nearly unanimous in swearing that the BT would never stoop so low as to take 1 of that group, and certainly never 2 of them.

But once the move was revealed, suddenly BT fans appeared all over saying the move was one of pure genius.

 

[All4SU]

I would expect Maryland fans to miss their old rivals. And traveling to Florida and SC and NC and VA must be more enjoyable than trips to Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and such. Likewise, I would guess that UMD has far more alums along the eastern seaboard than in points Midwest, so that will impact them. But with Penn State and Buttgers close by, they will still have natural rivals in their region. Just not their old traditional rivals. At most, they will play slightly less than half of their games in the Midwest. It's a much different situation than WVU's.

I do think that the ACC is poised to take off though. The perception of the B1G conference as being superior is going to fade pretty quickly. And that perhaps more than anything else may have them looking longingly at their old neighborhood.

 

[SU2NASA]

Why do you think that's true?

I mean, I have no doubt that the fan base would prefer the ACC - especially from a basketball perspective.

But, the Big Ten will provide a lot of money and access to games with big time football programs like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

Why do you think MD will regret the move?

First, Maryland will only be getting a partial share for the next decade. They'll actually likely take a loss for the move until at least the late 2010's. After that, it's still a question of how beneficial the move will be financially given that there is a lot that will change between now and then.

Though I do welcome them becoming Michigan's bitch.

 

[SmilinBob]

First, Maryland will only be getting a partial share for the next decade. They'll actually likely take a loss for the move until at least the late 2010's. After that, it's still a question of how beneficial the move will be financially given that there is a lot that will change between now and then.

Though I do welcome them becoming Indiana's bitch.

Sorry, I had to fix your post because the truth is out there and it has to be told. The Big 10 refs are looking forward to helping the old school Big 10 get some conference wins.

 

[Millhouse]

What arrogance "We knew that in the absence of our messaging during this initial stage, most fans would react emotionally and negatively."

 

[NovaOrange]

Yeah, Maryland really needed the money its just that simple. Maryland sold out so they could keep their AD afloat. Maryland law precluded them from being able to pass their AD loses onto the Maryland student body General Fund like Rutgers and a bunch of schools do to subsidize their AD. Maryland had no choice to take the B1G money or gut several Athletic programs. Debbie Yow spent like a drunken sailor on expanding Byrd Stadium and really left the Maryland AD office in shambles.

Virginia and North Carolina the other targets of the B1G have healthy AD offices and aren't going to leave being named partners in the ACC to become associates/junior partners in the B1G. The ACC will pay out its members mid 20 million a dollars a year the B1G after 2016 will likely pay 30 to 35 million a year. That money isn't worth changing your identity unless you really need the money. As Nole_Lou has said the ACC's biggest problem is the easiest to fix which is winning games. The ACC has better demos/recruits for the future, and the B1G can't fix these demos. If the ACC wins then the money will be their in the next contract.

By far the most spot on post in this thread

 

[OrangePA]

First, Maryland will only be getting a partial share for the next decade. They'll actually likely take a loss for the move until at least the late 2010's. After that, it's still a question of how beneficial the move will be financially given that there is a lot that will change between now and then.

Though I do welcome them becoming Michigan's bitch.

If MD made the move without an assurance of a big financial windfall, then it was a bad move.

MD should be in the ACC.

 

[OrangePA]

What arrogance "We knew that in the absence of our messaging during this initial stage, most fans would react emotionally and negatively."

How could our fans possibly understand the value of leaving our traditional conference - and our traditional rivalries - to travel to wonderful American outposts such as Iowa City and Lincoln NE every winter?!

The fans need our messaging to truly appreciate what a great move this is.

 

[Townie72]

How could our fans possibly understand the value of leaving our traditional conference - and our traditional rivalries - to travel to wonderful American outposts such as Iowa City and Lincoln NE every winter?!

The fans need our messaging to truly appreciate what a great move this is.

You are, of course, right on.

The selling job they are attempting now is something they have to do. It's mandatory. Because they are starting to come to terms with just how much its fan base doesn't like this.

 

[Bayside44]

You are, of course, right on.

The selling job they are attempting now is something they have to do. It's mandatory. Because they are starting to come to terms with just how much its fan base doesn't like this.

Townie, we gonna see you Saturday?

 

[Townie72]

Townie, we gonna see you Saturday?

Bayside;

I am in Germany. Too long a trip.

 

[Jeepers]

All great points. But I think you have to give more weight to the large state schools angle and that this is probably just a first step to more expansion.