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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 2796986, member: 636"] So your logic is that if he can make the Illini really good for a decade (which would take at least 3 seasons to get him to start that decade of "really good") he should leave a program with a much richer history (from the mid-1950s forward) where he has already done the groundwork necessary to set himself up for a really great coaching job within the next 3-5 years? Really?!? You do realize that Babers is 57 years old, right? I am not one of those Orange fans who believes he will stay here forever but he is only leaving for a much better program - high Baron level or King level. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]