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Message: [QUOTE="Ringostar57, post: 2692416, member: 5189"] We are in the old Archbold rut...I'm onboard from the fifties. Back then play Holy Cross, Villanova or Boston U and draw 15000, play Pitt W Va PSU draw 36 to 40000. I know, had to battle the weather but still who we played mattered a lot. As far as population OC had roughly 340 to 400 thousand people in the 50s vs 466 thousand now. A winner with solid marketing plus who we play matters. [/QUOTE]