UVA opens as an 8.5 point fave...

[qdawgg]

Haven't been on a ledge since the epic marrone meltdown in 2011. I'm beat down by all of it, just can't get that fired up about it anymore. Team to me has always been 5-7 wins, still think that is the mark. The problem really is we are just praying to tread water this year after such a bad year last year. When will we believe that we can actually win 8-9 games. Hopefully next couple years if Dungey continues to progress.

And like I said I really like shafer want to see him stay and succeed but we need to get to a point where we are favored to win games like this week and last. I think we can win the next 2

Agree completely.

 

[AZOrange]

Take the points. You're not going to see another performance like that this week.

Money Line!

 

[690West]

Money Line!

Wow. You can get Cuse +269 on the ML. That implies we currently have a 27% chance to win Saturday.

 

[690West]

Down to +7 at most books. Here we go again.

 

[Shenexon]

Wow. You can get Cuse +269 on the ML. That implies we currently have a 27% chance to win Saturday.

I feel like I'm in an alternate universe...If one wanted to participate in wagering on SU this weekend, where is a good place to start?

 

[Orangello]

I feel like I'm in an alternate universe...If one wanted to participate in wagering on SU this weekend, where is a good place to start?

 

[elimunelson]

Does anyone really think the spread should be much lower? I see this as -5 type game. On a neutral field, on talent alone, i would think UVA is favored.

We need this one in a big way and it'll be a big victory if we can pull it off. But to be surprised based off of the last game as to where the spread is, is bananaland.

 

[Millhouse]

Haven't been on a ledge since the epic marrone meltdown in 2011. I'm beat down by all of it, just can't get that fired up about it anymore. Team to me has always been 5-7 wins, still think that is the mark. The problem really is we are just praying to tread water this year after such a bad year last year. When will we believe that we can actually win 8-9 games. Hopefully next couple years if Dungey continues to progress.

And like I said I really like shafer want to see him stay and succeed but we need to get to a point where we are favored to win games like this week and last. I think we can win the next 2

it's going to be very tempting to start imagining what some offensive mind as head coach could do with dungey.

 

[690West]

Update: Moneyline now at Syracuse +230, indicating SU with a 30% chance to win outright. Regular spread has found a comfortable home at +7

 

[Millhouse]

Update: Moneyline now at Syracuse +230, indicating SU with a 30% chance to win outright. Regular spread has found a comfortable home at +7

can you explain what +230 here means? i don't bet but i'm interested in what the market thinks. point spreads don't give you volatility

 

[Orangello]

I wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole. The line settling in at +7 tells me all I need to know.

 

[Alsacs]

can you explain what +230 here means? i don't bet but i'm interested in what the market thinks. point spreads don't give you volatility

It means if you bet 100 dollars on Syracuse to win you would receive 230 dollars.

 

[690West]

can you explain what +230 here means? i don't bet but i'm interested in what the market thinks. point spreads don't give you volatility

A Money Line or straight up wager is a bet on the outright winner of the game or event, without any point spreadodds. A Money Line better doesn't have to worry about a team winning or losing by a certain number of points.

Oddsmakers still determine a favorite and an underdog by the overall strength of the competitor, but the odds given are based on the amount of money that needs to be put up in order to place the bet.

Example:

The bettor will receive odds that resemble these:

Colts –140

Bears +120

The (-) symbolizes which team is the favorite and the (+) indicates which team is the underdog. So in the above example, the Colts are the favorite and the Bears are the underdog. All the bettor is wagering on is who he or she thinks will win the game.

If one were to bet on the Colts, he or she would have to risk $140 to win $100 (or $105 to win $75; $70 to win $50, etc). If one were to bet on the Bears, he or she would only have to risk $83.33 to win $100 (or $62.50 to win $75; $41.67 to win $50, etc).

So while the Colts are the favorite to win the game, one would have to risk more money if they wanted to bet on them.

 

[690West]

can you explain what +230 here means? i don't bet but i'm interested in what the market thinks. point spreads don't give you volatility

I like to use the converter calculator below to see win probability based off of the changing moneyline.
http://www.covers.com/sportsbetting/money_lines.aspx

 

[Alsacs]

The fact Vegas is making us +230 against this 1-4 Virginia team. Vegas is saying Syracuse sucks. I could see UVA being like -120 or maybe -150 but SU being +230 this team means we might not win more than 1 more game this year.

 

[Millhouse]

A Money Line or straight up wager is a bet on the outright winner of the game or event, without any point spreadodds. A Money Line better doesn't have to worry about a team winning or losing by a certain number of points.

Oddsmakers still determine a favorite and an underdog by the overall strength of the competitor, but the odds given are based on the amount of money that needs to be put up in order to place the bet.

Example:

The bettor will receive odds that resemble these:

Colts –140

Bears +120

The (-) symbolizes which team is the favorite and the (+) indicates which team is the underdog. So in the above example, the Colts are the favorite and the Bears are the underdog. All the bettor is wagering on is who he or she thinks will win the game.

If one were to bet on the Colts, he or she would have to risk $140 to win $100 (or $105 to win $75; $70 to win $50, etc). If one were to bet on the Bears, he or she would only have to risk $83.33 to win $100 (or $62.50 to win $75; $41.67 to win $50, etc).

So while the Colts are the favorite to win the game, one would have to risk more money if they wanted to bet on them.

thanks, you can avoid dividing if you think of it is
-140 means you be 140 to win 100
+120 means you bet 100 to win 120

 

[690West]

thanks, you can avoid dividing if you think of it is
-140 means you be 140 to win 100
+120 means you bet 100 to win 120

exactly. Thats how you read it.

 

[Millhouse]

The fact Vegas is making us +230 against this 1-4 Virginia team. Vegas is saying Syracuse sucks. I could see UVA being like -120 or maybe -150 but SU being +230 this team means we might not win more than 1 more game this year.

vegas thinks turnovers are luckier than we want to believe. and they think john wolford is a lot worse than we want to believe.

4 games against real teams, 68% completion, 9.1 YPA given up

BC is the only team that won't throw against us

SU needs to play like they're behind from the start. i think desperation should lead to taking chances through the air. but i suspect Lester will want to take chances through trick plays after trying to eat clock

 

[kirbivore]

congrats for those of you who took the points

 

[690West]

I'll be honest and although I don't like to say it and others won't like me saying it but SU will not win another game this year.

Almost my friend, but incorrect.