Ware Injury Video | Syracusefan.com

Ware Injury Video

wink91wink

wink91wink

Walk On
Joined
Feb 8, 2012
Messages
82
Like
41
Absolutely awful. I can't even imagine something like that happening. Praying for that kid.

 
the twitter picture someone posted was the "perfect" angle. :(
 
that... is not a dislocation. That is a compound fracture and he may never play again.
 
edowd26 said:
that... is not a dislocation. That is a compound fracture and he may never play again.
Expand...

Na, he'll play again. Looks like he only broke it in one spot. Just looked really bad because it was compound and his bone was sticking out. He'll get some rods and screws and about 12 months of recovery and he'll be good to go.
 
SWC75 said:
Reminded me of this, which I saw live on TV: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1999/07/04/brewers_pirates/

The Theisman thing was about being hit by players going in different directions. These were about a player coming down awkwardly.

Kendall made a successful comeback: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kendall
Expand...

That Kendall injury is not even close to what happened to Ware.

Also, given how far the bone came out, and given the location of the break, it's not good. It didn't occur near the joints, and he's under high infection risk due to how exposed that injury became. He quite literally could lose the leg if anything goes wrong.
 
Czar said:
That Kendall injury is not even close to what happened to Ware.

Also, given how far the bone came out, and given the location of the break, it's not good. It didn't occur near the joints, and he's under high infection risk due to how exposed that injury became. He quite literally could lose the leg if anything goes wrong.
Expand...
Saw an interesting post on the ESPN board about the injury, where someone was just wondering allowed if there is something else going on in the bone, i.e. cancer, because of how bad the injury was without a ton of pressure behind it. I did not watch the injury or the replays, because I cannot, but was it just the perfect storm of angle and force on the leg, or does it seem like something else could have been going on?
 
Have to worry about compartment syndrome with that one. Will take years to recover from if that's the case.


ABC - Always Be Closing...
 
Maybe it's because I've had a number of knee and ankle surgeries but I can never look at replays or videos like this- I don't want to see these things. I saw the Joe Theisman one and am still queasy today when I think of it (SNL had a good skit about the Joe Theisman pencil sharpener though).
 
Pitin o said it's the same injury Michael Bush had in football and he's playing for the Raiders. That was a broken tibia.
 
JDubbin said:
Saw an interesting post on the ESPN board about the injury, where someone was just wondering allowed if there is something else going on in the bone, i.e. cancer, because of how bad the injury was without a ton of pressure behind it. I did not watch the injury or the replays, because I cannot, but was it just the perfect storm of angle and force on the leg, or does it seem like something else could have been going on?
Expand...

Back in the 90s there was a kid at Seton Catholic in Binghamton that had the exact same thing happen to him in a game vs Whitney Point - in that case it was just a perfect storm. Honestly that was what I thought back to when I saw this injury.
 
JDubbin said:
Saw an interesting post on the ESPN board about the injury, where someone was just wondering allowed if there is something else going on in the bone, i.e. cancer, because of how bad the injury was without a ton of pressure behind it. I did not watch the injury or the replays, because I cannot, but was it just the perfect storm of angle and force on the leg, or does it seem like something else could have been going on?
Expand...
could also be a cyst
 
wink91wink said:
Absolutely awful. I can't even imagine something like that happening. Praying for that kid.
Expand...

For as awful as that injury is, it looked like a clean break that didn't involve the joints. If there are no complications, he could be good again. Osteoblasts and osteoclasts are wonderful things.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MCC
SWC75 said:
Pitin o said it's the same injury Michael Bush had in football and he's playing for the Raiders. That was a broken tibia.
Expand...

this was more than just a tib. it was tib fib for sure. echos other thoughts that he'll get internal fixation and should return to court. compartment syndrome often happens but can be treated w fasciotomy. itll be a tough month but could see him back on court in 12 months if he gets a good union. lastly, also curious how this broke without coming down on someone else. maybe he had prior injury or it was just the perfect storm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MCC
As someone with a history of knee injuries, I cringe every time I see something like this. It was one of the most horrific things I've seen during a game.

I can't stand Louisville, but I am sorry to see this.

And I know that this wasn't specifically a knee injury Ware sustained [versus a broken leg], but its the same in principle.
 
That was the worst injury that I've seen and it was such a common play. His teammates were literally vomiting on the bench
 
jgeorge322 said:
this was more than just a tib. it was tib fib for sure. echos other thoughts that he'll get internal fixation and should return to court. compartment syndrome often happens but can be treated w fasciotomy. itll be a tough month but could see him back on court in 12 months if he gets a good union. lastly, also curious how this broke without coming down on someone else. maybe he had prior injury or it was just the perfect storm.
Expand...

Per ESPN, the leg was broken in two places. it was reset and a rod was put in the tibia.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...le-cardinals-breaks-bone-leg-duke-blue-devils
 
JDubbin said:
Saw an interesting post on the ESPN board about the injury, where someone was just wondering allowed if there is something else going on in the bone, i.e. cancer, because of how bad the injury was without a ton of pressure behind it. I did not watch the injury or the replays, because I cannot, but was it just the perfect storm of angle and force on the leg, or does it seem like something else could have been going on?
Expand...
hard to know with certainty, but they'll sort that out this week looking for if it's a "perfect storm" of a simple yet horrible open compound fracture or more of what is known as a pathologic fracture (due to other reasons from tumors, previous stress fractures, etc) that allowed the compound open fx.

Pitino was quick to point out Bush who overcame this but these injuries can go in so many directions. Kind of like the discussion last year with honey bear thompsons hip avascular necrosis concerns, we can hope for best case this may be best case scenario like Bush or it can go in other directions should they find any other problem going on that predisposed him for this, or if there's any nerve damage associated often with open fractures.

Theres some delicate nerves in there right near the fracture that one can only hope they find intact. If so and no other pathologies are found he's should be good to go.
 
I broke my arm in 8 places when I was a kid. Thought I'd be disfigured for life. The arm was still crooked when the cast was taken off but they had me keep a wrap on it for a couple weeks after and I was back playing sports the next year. Today there is no sign of the injury. They do some amazing stuff in Medicine.
 
RF2044 said:
As someone with a history of knee injuries, I cringe every time I see something like this. It was one of the most horrific things I've seen during a game.

I can't stand Louisville, but I am sorry to see this.

And I know that this wasn't specifically a knee injury Ware sustained [versus a broken leg], but its the same in principle.
Expand...

Well, RE: knee inuries... IMO ligamentous knee injuries are generally more sinister than tib / fib fractures. Serious knee injuries (e.g. tears of multiple ligaments, some of the more nasty dislocated patellae...) are notoriously difficult to repair and recover from. Not to mention knee dislocations where the peroneal nerve is shut down and you end up with drop foot...

Based on what I saw that was an open tib fib (break of both the tibia and fibula with bone protruding through skin). Assuming the fracture wasn't near the tibial plateau (top of tib near knee) or tibial plafond (bottom of tib near ankle) Ware can potentially effect a full recovery. They'll do ORIF (open reduction internal fixation) and insert an IM rod (intermedullary rod) inside the tibia with screws at the top and bottom. He should be able to put weight on it in about 3 - 4 months assuming callus formation and he eventually achieves union (i.e. bone to bone regrowth and contact). What could suck for him is if he needs an external fixator (series of rods and screws set into his leg from the outside to hold everything in place) - annoyingly high chance of infection with these if not cared for properly.

IMHO compartment syndrome shouldn't be a major risk here.

Hopefully he won't need a graft (if segmental defect is large, then he might). Usually they'll take this from the iliac crest on the hip.

The fibula fracture is often not a major concern - as long as there isn't huge distraction on frx. Fib is not a weight bearing bone.

Anyway, I wish him the best for a full recovery. Go osteoblasts and -clasts.
 
That injury is only topped by Clint Malarchuk because he almost died. I still can't watch that video without getting sick to my stomach. I didn't saw Malarchuk's live though like this one.
 
bnoro said:
That injury is only topped by Clint Malarchuk because he almost died. I still can't watch that video without getting sick to my stomach. I didn't saw Malarchuk's live though like this one.
Expand...
saw that and zednik on tv live. terrifying.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
 
JDubbin said:
Saw an interesting post on the ESPN board about the injury, where someone was just wondering allowed if there is something else going on in the bone, i.e. cancer, because of how bad the injury was without a ton of pressure behind it. I did not watch the injury or the replays, because I cannot, but was it just the perfect storm of angle and force on the leg, or does it seem like something else could have been going on?
Expand...


Wasn't that the situation that occurred for Dave Dravecky. He was a pitcher for San Diego when almost he same thing occurred. I believe it was determined to be cancer. I don't think that is the case here though.

Tom Browning did the same thing. Wasn't he a Lemoyne graduate?

 
SWC75 said:
Per ESPN, the leg was broken in two places. it was reset and a rod was put in the tibia.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...le-cardinals-breaks-bone-leg-duke-blue-devils
Expand...

It doesn't really matter but your lower leg consists of two bones, the tibia and fibula. The tibia is in front. the fibula is in back. My point was I don't think it's possible to break your tibia in that fashion and not also break your fibula. I've read multiple other reports w input from medical professionals who echo my opinions. See:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/colle...eaves-vs-duke-with-broken-right-leg-1.4970728

The reason it is important is because I've seen severe broken tibias where they don't set the fibula right away. That may necessitate a second surgery later on that prolongs his recovery. I really wish this kid the best because its sad for me to watch young men injured in such a fashion.

As bad as the injury was, I have to believe it it's better than a bimalleolar ankle fracture because that is at the joint and could require arthroplasty (joint replacement) surgery later in life. My hope is that it is a very clean break and he returns w little disability. He will likely have an IM rod inserted in his bone for the rest of his life.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MCC
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
173,906
Messages
5,120,173
Members
6,074
Latest member
CheerMom12

Share this page

Online statistics

Members online
176
Guests online
1,771
Total visitors
1,947
Totals may include hidden visitors.


...
Top Bottom