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Message: [QUOTE="SU91, post: 5010999, member: 8807"] AlaskaSU makes good points as do you. It’s a bit of everything. The program has been teetering for years now. I think a particularly good point that AlaskaSU makes is about the fact that SU is at best third fiddle in the acc, but more likely fourth or possibly fifth. At worst we are middling or dare I say bottom tier. Whereas, in the old BE, SU is where players came if they wanted to play for conference championships and beyond. So, again, I think the point he was trying to make is, players aren’t flocking to SU anymore if it means they’ll just be playing for an also-ran. Why bother when they can just head to Duke or UNC? Or, they can go elsewhere and at least have a shot at winning while SU is stuck in neutral. So, all the things you said are 100% accurate but the ACC move and our decline is no coincidence either. [/QUOTE]