Watching SJU / UCONN Big East Tourney

[RaoulDuke]

Can we go back to the Big East? This tourney is and always was, the pinnacle of college hoops. At MSG. Fans on the court. Crazy atmosphere... I miss it so.

 

[SwagSocks]

Won't happen. Fooseball

 

[Bill Orange]

Can we go back to the Big East? This tourney is and always was, the pinnacle of college hoops. At MSG. Fans on the court. Crazy atmosphere... I miss it so.

A-freaking men.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Sure thing.

Just nuke the football program, tell Coach Fran "thanks but no thanks", and give back all that NIL money.

I think you've got a better chance of the United States begging the UK to take us back as a colony.

 

[Cuseball]

Can we go back to the Big East? This tourney is and always was, the pinnacle of college hoops. At MSG. Fans on the court. Crazy atmosphere... I miss it so.

It’s certainly a better atmosphere. Pitino is an amazing coach. Complete control of that team and a commanding presence on the sideline. St. John’s plays hard

 

[Cuseball]

It’s certainly a better atmosphere. Pitino is an amazing coach. Complete control of that team and a commanding presence on the sideline. St. John’s plays hard

And as you said. Big East Tournament was the best thing ever

 

[AlaskaSU]

The ACC will drastically change. Will it remain Power 4? Our football is on the way up but our basketball team belongs in the Big East. A NE school in a southern conference is a hard sell for basketball recruiting. Basketball recruiting is more regional than football. I don't expect our basketball team to ever be successful in the ACC. Perhaps we will become a football oriented school? From day 1 the move to the ACC was a move to save the football team while sacrificeing the basketball team. It appears that the move will meet its goals.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I'll root for anyone to beat Yukon. Even Pitino.

 

[djorange1989]

The way to solve this is separate football from all other sports, have hoops and all of the non-revenue sports play in a conference that makes geographic sense. SU, BC, Pitt play all sports minus football in the Big East. Notre Dame can move their non football sports to the Big 10, Terps go back to the ACC etc.

 

[NKR1978]

We wouldn’t be enjoying this big east tournament. There’s a 50/50 chance we’d have been eliminated on Tuesday.

 

[NineOneSeven]

UConn is going to win again. Truly beyond belief tbh. Just wild, sickening stuff.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Don't disagree but if we were winning like we used to, we wouldn't care. Losing makes us cope w nostalgia and it's a powerful drug.

I don't really buy the regional argument for recruiting, SU is not in the big10 footprint and landed guys from Detroit like DC and Devo.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Don't disagree but if we were winning like we used to, we wouldn't care. Losing makes us cope w nostalgia and it's a powerful drug.

I don't really buy the regional argument for recruiting, SU is not in the big10 footprint and landed guys from Detroit like DC and Devo.

DC, Philly, Detroit, NYC, NJ were our pipelines. Those kids were in our footprint. They were not in the SE footprint.

Miami was a Big East basketball bottom feeder. Now they are generally more competitive.

Basketball players are more visible than football players. They tend not to stray as far. When they play friends and family can visibly cheer for them. Fans can't meaningfully cheer for individual football players. Geography is less important to them.

 

[DilemaCuse]

DC, Philly, Detroit, NYC, NJ were our pipelines. Those kids were in our footprint. They were not in the SE footprint.

Miami was a Big East basketball bottom feeder. Now they are generally more competitive.

Basketball players are more visible than football players. They tend not to stray as far. When they play friends and family can visibly cheer for them. Fans can't meaningfully cheer for individual football players. Geography is less important to them.

All of those locations haven't moved and 4 of them are in-between campus and tobacco road.
Location can play a factor in recruiting but so do relationships. Hard to build relationships when the previous coach stopped seeing recruits games during the season and maybe attended an aau tournament in the off-season.

 

[jncuse]

DC, Philly, Detroit, NYC, NJ were our pipelines. Those kids were in our footprint. They were not in the SE footprint.

Miami was a Big East basketball bottom feeder. Now they are generally more competitive.

Basketball players are more visible than football players. They tend not to stray as far. When they play friends and family can visibly cheer for them. Fans can't meaningfully cheer for individual football players. Geography is less important to them.

Miami became competitive in the Big East before they left for the ACC.

In their last 6 years in the Big East, they made the tourney 3 times, and they were a 2 seed, a 5 seed, and a 6 seed. Sometimes I have a hard time remembering what a 6 seed feels like, much less a 2 seed.

 

[MikeSU02]

Don’t worry, there’s five straight ACCTs in NC. The conference will be fine.

Big move of HQ to CLT, too.

 

[Millhouse]

Can we go back to the Big East? This tourney is and always was, the pinnacle of college hoops. At MSG. Fans on the court. Crazy atmosphere... I miss it so.

All the"football drives the bus" people were wrong about every prediction about realignments effect on basketball.

 

[AlaskaSU]

All of those locations haven't moved and 4 of them are in-between campus and tobacco road.
Location can play a factor in recruiting but so do relationships. Hard to build relationships when the previous coach stopped seeing recruits games during the season and maybe attended an aau tournament in the off-season.

Our old pipelines have not moved, as if cities could move, but we moved to the ACC. Those cities produce kids that want to play in the BE.

 

[NKR1978]

DC, Philly, Detroit, NYC, NJ were our pipelines. Those kids were in our footprint. They were not in the SE footprint.

Miami was a Big East basketball bottom feeder. Now they are generally more competitive.

Basketball players are more visible than football players. They tend not to stray as far. When they play friends and family can visibly cheer for them. Fans can't meaningfully cheer for individual football players. Geography is less important to them.

Alabama can get top kids from the northeast, but we can’t because of the ACC. That’s not logical.

 

[Domedog84]

Our old pipelines have not moved, as if cities could move, but we moved to the ACC. Those cities produce kids that want to play in the BE.

For Butler?

 

[Scotch]

Our old pipelines have not moved, as if cities could move, but we moved to the ACC. Those cities produce kids that want to play in the BE.

You constantly blame our struggles on the conference while ignoring the fact that other schools in the ACC, BIG and SEC are getting plenty of talent from the Northeast.

Our former coach is responsible for our mediocrity - not the ACC.

 

[swish7]

Can we go back to the Big East? This tourney is and always was, the pinnacle of college hoops. At MSG. Fans on the court. Crazy atmosphere... I miss it so.

Agreed. At the very least, move the ACCT to MSG.

 

[tbonezone]

All the"football drives the bus" people were wrong about every prediction about realignments effect on basketball.

well football is worse , hoops is worse , lax is worse since joining the ACC.
guess soccer drives the bus.

 

[samspann1]

 

[tbonezone]

The ACC will drastically change.

football conference is primed to implode. sometimes it's hard for folks to admit their mistakes. instead they double down . in financial circles it's called the sunk cost fallacy.
throwing good money after bad instead of cutting your losses and walking away.