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Message: [QUOTE="Col. Bleep, post: 2139248, member: 1023"] That's a great line and great description of what the Orange do. The faux pick and roll where nothing happens except the guard keeps going laterally with the ball. But this thread is right on the money. You can't win consistently against top teams without strong, dominant guard play. Look at our Final Four teams. Dependable point play (notwithstanding Gbinije moving to the position)...usually a strong shooting guard who can also handle...and at least 3-deep. '74-75: Jimmy Williams & Jimmy Lee and Kevin King and Ross Kindel '86-87 Sherman Douglas & Greg Monroe and Stephen Thompson '95-96 Laz Sims and Marius Janulis & Jason Cipolla & Todd Burgan '03-'04 Gerry McNamara & Kueth Duany and Billy Edelin & Josh Pace '12-'13 Michael Carter-Williams & Brandon Triche and Trevor Cooney '15-'16 Michael Gbinije & Trevor Cooney and Malachi Richardson [/QUOTE]