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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 4562278, member: 474"] honestly most of the NCAA does as well.. The difference i see is that many of the teams ahead of us have those games where they just play lights out as well as those games where they play like crap. the games we played pretty well are not elite enough and we barfed them up.. The games we played really poorly we only have had a few blow out losses. All of that ends up being not much worse over all than about 20 teams that will make the tourney but none of the wins that get you in. WV/Ok st are 15-9/4-7 type teams but on the bubble we are 15-10/8-6 and cant even see a bubble. [/QUOTE]