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[QUOTE="sufandu, post: 3120236, member: 874"]
The teams referenced in the post I responded to are Alabama, Texas, USC, and Syracuse.

Consensus All-Americans
69, 52, 72, 18

Undefeated Seasons (went back to 1945)
7, 3, 4 (I excluded any during the Pete Carroll era), 2
Including 1 loss seasons would greatly weaken any argument for SU

National Championships (according to NCAA.com, including any shared)
11, 3, 5 (I excluded any during the Pete Carroll era), 1

Heisman Winners
2, 2 (an argument can be made for 3, Vince Young), 4 (I excluded the 3 winners during the Pete Carroll era), 1 (should be 2 (Jim Brown), an argument can be made for 3 Don McPherson)

Losing seasons
11, 11, 9, 20 (going back to 1949 the first year for Ben Swartzwalder, add 4 more if you back to 1945)

The choice of 1945 for some categories was arbitrary. It seemed to be a good place to start, it included all of the BS years, and SU was insignificant prior to it.

Objectively the numbers indicate that SU is a very good school but it is not in the same historical class as Alabama and USC. Texas may not be either but still has more consistent success than SU. Do I like SU less? No. Fandom does not have to ignore objectivity.
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