Well, this is awkward

[690West]

No, my point was not that it' wouldn't be a story, because EVERYTHING is a story these days.

My point was that Otto's thought of people being upset that Oregon was disciplining kids for saying "no means no" would be the focus. Is that what's happening?

Oh got it

 

[Scooch]

Oh got it

I was probably unclear in what I wrote.

I guess Otto has FB friends that are aghast that Oregon supports rape! but I don't imagine that's the take that most human beings will walk away with.

Oregon doesn't want its players acting like fools on a podium. I imagine their discipline will be something internal that will never affect them on the field, and the world will move on by tomorrow when the NFL playoffs start.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I was probably unclear in what I wrote.

I guess Otto has FB friends that are aghast that Oregon supports rape! but I don't imagine that's the take that most human beings will walk away with.

Oregon doesn't want its players acting like fools on a podium. I imagine their discipline will be something internal that will never affect them on the field, and the world will move on by tomorrow when the NFL playoffs start.

I totally have some friends that love getting worked up over stuff.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Saw the thread title and thought it would be about the 'Bama fan realizing she's on camera with NOT her boyfriend...



https://vine.co/v/OwlizHpAtZM

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Saw the thread title and thought it would be about the 'Bama fan realizing she's on camera with NOT her boyfriend...

https://vine.co/v/OwlizHpAtZM

Oh, that's incredible.

 

[Entropic]

Personally I think Winston should be mocked and couldn't care less about it. I can think of so many more things that should be disciplined over mocking a player like Winston.

 

[Noexcuse]

Saw the thread title and thought it would be about the 'Bama fan realizing she's on camera with NOT her boyfriend...



https://vine.co/v/OwlizHpAtZM

The old "touch your face" tell

 

[leftytg]

One wrong does not make another wrong ok. What you say is not even relevant to what happened tonight. Do you really think that was the mind set of the Oregon players when they did that? Do you really think that this was only directed towards Winston? The use of the chop song was an insult to all FSU fans and players. This type of behavior has to stop somewhere. If Winston was wrong, and if FSU wrongly handled him, that is another issue. If the Oregon players really felt that was the issue, then they could have refused to take the field when he was playing. That would have been the real statement. Not after Fl. State has left the field and they are in the locker room. Who was the message directed to if it was about the message.

you might want to sit down for this, but I have some earth shattering news for you. Players, on the football field, sometimes say mean things to each other. Sometimes they even - I kid you not - talk about each other's mommas. They have even been known to question the skills, talents, and abilities of other players in a derogatory way - oftentimes with four letter words.

Joking aside, your post is wringing your hands over insults. I guarantee you the "no means no" chant doesn't crack the top 50 most vile things said on the field during the game. You don't have to like it - I don't and wish it wasn't part of the game - but it is. The officials will flag over the top taunting and gesturing, but trash talking goes unpunished. If this hadn't gotten picked up on camera, it would never have been thought of again. But because it was posted on social media, Oregon's coach had to come out and go through the motions of saying it was classless. Notice he didn't specify a punishment. To the extent they are punished, it'll be running a few sets of stairs or some extra up downs.

The fact that this even made news is an indictment on our obsessive 24 hour lowest common denominator thirst for things to be offended by.

 

[llandz]

you might want to sit down for this, but I have some earth shattering news for you. Players, on the football field, sometimes say mean things to each other. Sometimes they even - I kid you not - talk about each other's mommas. They have even been known to question the skills, talents, and abilities of other players in a derogatory way - oftentimes with four letter words.

Joking aside, your post is wringing your hands over insults. I guarantee you the "no means no" chant doesn't crack the top 50 most vile things said on the field during the game. You don't have to like it - I don't and wish it wasn't part of the game - but it is. The officials will flag over the top taunting and gesturing, but trash talking goes unpunished. If this hadn't gotten picked up on camera, it would never have been thought of again. But because it was posted on social media, Oregon's coach had to come out and go through the motions of saying it was classless. Notice he didn't specify a punishment. To the extent they are punished, it'll be running a few sets of stairs or some extra up downs.

The fact that this even made news is an indictment on our obsessive 24 hour lowest common denominator thirst for things to be offended by.

You might want to read about the story. Your facts are all wrong. This was not taunting on the field. I could care less about what is said to each other on the field. I don't care if 50 Oregon players said the exact same thing to Winston during the game on the field. And trust me, as a Newhouse grad, I probably have a much better idea of what the news can do to a story than you do. This story was not spread through social media. It was on the mainstream news while the post game broadcast was still live on TV. I was on the computer and read it on ESPN about 5 minutes after the trophy was presented.
Also I am not the person who started this thread. I am also not the only person that thinks that what the players did was basically wrong even if the message was right. And the message was right, but the method was wrong. And college is not the NFL. If this happens in the NFL to Winston, fine. You are missing the whole point.

 

[Melancer46]

Lol, if anyone is actually giving Oregon crap like "They support rape!", they are a joke. Jameis was not found guilty of anything. Until he is, calling him out for something that he hasn't been proven to have actually done is inappropriate, and a punishment of some sort is definitely appropriate in this situation. It's just a total lack of class on their part.

 

[llandz]

And seriously do you honestly think that those players even thought that they were making some sort of point as to how this rape accusation was handled?

Or do you think they were just being a bunch of wise guys after the game, and using it as a method just to taunt the team and players they just played.

My vote goes to the later, and that is why it is wrong.

 

[SUbear]

One wrong does not make another wrong ok. What you say is not even relevant to what happened tonight. Do you really think that was the mind set of the Oregon players when they did that? Do you really think that this was only directed towards Winston? The use of the chop song was an insult to all FSU fans and players. This type of behavior has to stop somewhere. If Winston was wrong, and if FSU wrongly handled him, that is another issue. If the Oregon players really felt that was the issue, then they could have refused to take the field when he was playing. That would have been the real statement. Not after Fl. State has left the field and they are in the locker room. Who was the message directed to if it was about the message.

And the tomahawk chop thing is considered an insult by many native americans, but I guess that insult is okay. This I guess would apply to your two wrongs theory. I personnally have no problem with mocking the tomahawk chop. Frankly the tomahawk chop mocks FSU opponents and FSU fans do it all the time.

 

[Oakland]

Many FSU fans are prefectly happy that all the crap their football players do is covered up by the university and local officals. Concerning the chop - read a history of the Seminole tribe and tell me who is being insulted.

One wrong does not make another wrong ok. What you say is not even relevant to what happened tonight. Do you really think that was the mind set of the Oregon players when they did that? Do you really think that this was only directed towards Winston? The use of the chop song was an insult to all FSU fans and players. This type of behavior has to stop somewhere. If Winston was wrong, and if FSU wrongly handled him, that is another issue. If the Oregon players really felt that was the issue, then they could have refused to take the field when he was playing. That would have been the real statement. Not after Fl. State has left the field and they are in the locker room. Who was the message directed to if it was about the message.