What if Marrone doesnt get an NFL job?

[Shrmdougluvr]

Actually, in most states that is the case. If you have an employment contract for say, 3 years and get fired after only one, you get to sit on your butt for the remaining term of the contract and collect your money. Normally, if you decide to work, anything you earn is deducted from the amount due under your contract. Courts won't let you double dip unless that is a term of the contract as is the case with Saint Doug. Usually, contracts will also have to have specific consideration in order for a non-compete to be upheld in court as judges don't like to keep people from working. It must also be reasonable. Becoming a talking head on ESPN is not considered competing in the NFL, which is why fired coaches go the media route for the remaining term of their contracts.

But you are hardly ever allowed to walk away on your own volition and receive consideration, which is what Marrone did. Plus, there is seemingly no covenant not to compete in Marrone's contract, since that is precisely what he plans on doing (even looking within his own conference and division immediately (distance and duration). Marrone definitely got a sweet deal from Buffalo, and he is milking it to the fullest.

I know people have mentioned the giants as a long term destination, but i can't imagine an organization that well run willing to deal with someone like Marrone who has proven to be flakey and self-centered (unless they get a contract nearly as one-sided as Marrone's in NY).

 

[CuseLegacy]

New York Jets: Former Buffalo Bills head coach Doug Marrone will interview with the Jets on Saturday, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.

 

[GoSU96]

Well I am right and I wasn't going to rub it in your face that's why I stayed quiet on this thus far. And you totally misinterpreted my original stance (not shocking.) Which was when a NEW owner takes over he cleans house. The fact he wouldn't give Doug what he wanted is just his way of saying to Doug, leave ...I ain't gonna miss ya or beg ya to stick around. So, in reality he did clean house. Just not in a conventional way.

Yep, he wanted to clean house so much he offered an extension and a raise.

 

[upperdeck]

dont forget most of his coaches also have multi year deals the DC has a 3 year deal.. if they hire a new guy and fire everyone they will be out double coaches salaries for a year..

 

[CousCuse]

But you are hardly ever allowed to walk away on your own volition and receive consideration, which is what Marrone did. Plus, there is seemingly no covenant not to compete in Marrone's contract, since that is precisely what he plans on doing (even looking within his own conference and division immediately (distance and duration). Marrone definitely got a sweet deal from Buffalo, and he is milking it to the fullest.

I know people have mentioned the giants as a long term destination, but i can't imagine an organization that well run willing to deal with someone like Marrone who has proven to be flakey and self-centered (unless they get a contract nearly as one-sided as Marrone's in NY).

If by flaky , you mean a guy who asked both Syracuse and Buffalo for the support to keep his management team together and was denied , so he looked for other options and kept them together , then , yes he's "flaky".

 

[Stern]

Yep, he wanted to clean house so much he offered an extension and a raise.

And if he really wanted him he would have gone above and beyond to keep Doug and given him a true vote of confidence. Pegula didn't, he offered something he knew would get shot down. Just like Pegula wanted Polian in that front office as well but failed to land him. Pegula was looking to start over and put his stamp on that team. We will never agree on this so whatever. Not worth going in circles over, believe what ya want.

 

[Millhouse]

And if he really wanted him he would have gone above and beyond to keep Doug and given him a true vote of confidence. Pegula didn't, he offered something he knew would get shot down. Just like Pegula wanted Polian in that front office as well but failed to land him. Pegula was looking to start over and put his stamp on that team. We will never agree on this so whatever. Not worth going in circles over, believe what ya want.

He owned the team for five minutes, he's not canning anyone and he's also not going to give extensions beyond the two years left. Brandon gave him a four million dollar bonus to find another job. Had anyone else known about that, this all would've been entirely predictable

 

[qdawgg]

No way he's going to the Giants. That is a top five job in the NFL.

I think Marrone is a fine coach, but there is no way he's done enough to warrant HC for the NYG.

There are a ton of coaches who get top jobs they haven't shown they deserve. It's all perception.

 

[rrlbees]

Yep, he wanted to clean house so much he offered an extension and a raise.

Yea, he's spinning what the meaning of his post was.

 

[GoSU96]

And if he really wanted him he would have gone above and beyond to keep Doug and given him a true vote of confidence. Pegula didn't, he offered something he knew would get shot down. Just like Pegula wanted Polian in that front office as well but failed to land him. Pegula was looking to start over and put his stamp on that team. We will never agree on this so whatever. Not worth going in circles over, believe what ya want.

He offered a raise and extension, that's the opposite of firing.

What Pegula didn't do is confirm what his plans were for changes in the organization, which I suspect was getting rid of the guys that were bad mouthing Polian and opposing bringing him in based on the reports in the Buffalo news.

 

[Stern]

He offered a raise and extension, that's the opposite of firing.

What Pegula didn't do is confirm what his plans were for changes in the organization, which I suspect was getting rid of the guys that were bad mouthing Polian and opposing bringing him in based on the reports in the Buffalo news.

We see things very differently and Pegula let his head coach walk putting up very little of a fight. Hope you had a nice holiday season!

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

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You never leave a job unless you have a job. Jets deal was done, IMO, before he opted out. The stall is for show, and lining up assistants.

 

[Stern]

Yea, he's spinning what the meaning of his post was.

Not at all. You can go back and find the posts, I said all new owners like to put their stamp on the team when they take over. They want to put their people in place. Pegula took an approach that nobody say coming but its essentially what he did. Pegula wanting Polian and not willing to give into Doug's measly little demand is proof of that. He let Doug walk and didn't care that his head coach of a 9-7 team left. IF Pegula believed in Doug he would give him what he wanted (which wasn't much of a request/demand, I mean lets behonest). He didn't. He offered some little raise and extension that is chump change to a billionaire and no real vote of confidence as he can still fire Doug and have no real financial loss. Which Doug saw...and Doug was smart enough to hit the bricks cause he saw he had an owner who didn't care about him and knew the handwriting was on the wall he was on the way out sooner rather than later. Pegula doesn't care that the coach of his 9-7 team left. What he offered Doug was no vote of confidence. What Doug was asking for wasn't much but the new owner has so little faith in him he didn't give him what he wanted cause he doesn't care that Doug left.

Did he fire him flat out, no. What Pegula did was just say...leave if ya want I don't care. That's NOT a vote of confidence and is a different method of cleaning house.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

And if he really wanted him he would have gone above and beyond to keep Doug and given him a true vote of confidence. Pegula didn't, he offered something he knew would get shot down. Just like Pegula wanted Polian in that front office as well but failed to land him. Pegula was looking to start over and put his stamp on that team. We will never agree on this so whatever. Not worth going in circles over, believe what ya want.

Ax man says Mrs.,P runs this team, FWIW
His love is hockey.

 

[rrlbees]

Not at all. You can go back and find the posts, I said all new owners like to put their stamp on the team when they take over. They want to put their people in place. Pegula took an approach that nobody say coming but its essentially what he did. Pegula wanting Polian and not willing to give into Doug's measly little demand is proof of that. He let Doug walk and didn't care that his head coach of a 9-7 team left. IF Pegula believed in Doug he would give him what he wanted (which wasn't much of a request/demand, I mean lets behonest). He didn't. He offered some little raise and extension that is chump change to a billionaire and no real vote of confidence as he can still fire Doug and have no real financial loss. Which Doug saw...and Doug was smart enough to hit the bricks cause he saw he had an owner who didn't care about him and knew the handwriting was on the wall he was on the way out sooner rather than later. Pegula doesn't care that the coach of his 9-7 team left. What he offered Doug was no vote of confidence. What Doug was asking for wasn't much but the new owner has so little faith in him he didn't give him what he wanted cause he doesn't care that Doug left. Did he fire him flat out, no. What Pegula did was just say...leave if ya want I don't care. That's NOT a vote of confidence and is a different method of cleaning house.

You're 100% wrong and was wrong with your original posts. For you to be right means that if Marrone didn't opt out he would have been fired. And that's false, so your premise is wrong. New owner didn't clean out anything.

 

[Stern]

You're 100% wrong and was wrong with your original posts. For you to be right means that if Marrone didn't opt out he would have been fired. And that's false, so your premise is wrong. New owner didn't clean out anything.

We see things very differently. And you never understood my original post from way back when clearly. But whatever.

 

[upperdeck]

You never leave a job unless you have a job. Jets deal was done, IMO, before he opted out. The stall is for show, and lining up assistants.

that may be true, but with the nfl rules its not even allowed to have the discussion while under contract so as much as he wanted to be out it was far from a done deal.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

If by flaky , you mean a guy who asked both Syracuse and Buffalo for the support to keep his management team together and was denied , so he looked for other options and kept them together , then , yes he's "flaky".

That's probably the case, but who exactly do you think it is that is going to offer him employment? The same folks that i am sure he is coming to "hat in hand." You think he's the first coach to ever ask for more and not get it?

 

[rrlbees]

We see things very differently. And you never understood my original post from way back when clearly. But whatever.

It didn't take an English major to understand your original posts. And what you said would happen did not.

 

[GoSU96]

It didn't take an English major to understand your original posts. And what you said would happen did not.

Yep

 

[CuseLegacy]

Atlanta Falcons: Former Bills head coach Doug Marrone will interview for the Falcons’ head coaching job on Monday, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Keep track of NFL head coaching changes and interview news here.

 

[Cusester]

I just can't see him taking the Jets job and going through the same problems he had these last two years at quarterback. The Falcons are the only team looking for a coach who have an established,quality quarterback. And no, I haven't forgotten about Jay Cutler and the jury is still out on Derek Carr.

 

[Stern]

It didn't take an English major to understand your original posts. And what you said would happen did not.

It sure did. He isn't coaching in Buffalo now and its because of the owner. You can spin it anyway you want

 

[CousCuse]

That's probably the case, but who exactly do you think it is that is going to offer him employment? The same folks that i am sure he is coming to "hat in hand." You think he's the first coach to ever ask for more and not get it?

The assistant coaches at Syracuse get paid less than the janitors at OSU , FSU , Bama , etc. At Buffalo , it boiled down to giving Hacket a 1 year extention , as Schwartz has 2 years left. Not extortion in either case.

 

[GoSU96]

I just can't see him taking the Jets job and going through the same problems he had these last two years at quarterback. The Falcons are the only team looking for a coach who have an established,quality quarterback. And no, I haven't forgotten about Jay Cutler and the jury is still out on Derek Carr.

Jets have the 6th pick and six or seven more picks and $66M in cap space if they cut Harvin and his $10.5M hit.

That's a lot of flexibility. Keep trading down and pick up Hundley and picks or wait until the 2nd or 3rd round and draft Bryce Petty.