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are so much stronger than our upperclassmen.Will Hicks should be ashamed of today's performance.

Does FSU have any S&C G.A. available ?

Plus Trudo is getting thrown around like a rag doll today by a guy his same weight.

It's time for the old Hicks to retire and open a landscaping business raking leaves on Saturday.
 
are so much stronger than our upperclassmen.Will Hicks should be ashamed of today's performance.

Does FSU have any S&C G.A. available ?

Plus Trudo is getting thrown around like a rag doll today by a guy his same weight.

It's time for the old Hicks to retire and open a landscaping business raking leaves on Saturday.

Good point. People keep talking about the promising young players we have as a reason to keep Shafer as if no one else is doing any recruiting and player development. In the end, the good players will be playing other good players in conference games. Even if we even the talent level some, we're still held back by bonehead coaching. So what's the difference?
 
longislandcuse said:
Don't you worry. Our 40-60 ranked recruiting classes will eventually catch up to them.

#Starsdontmatter

#Thesecoachescanrecruit

Imagine how much more we'll lose by if we fire him.

Us keeping him reminds me of how happy I am when a basketball program in our conference hires and retains a s***** coach.
 
Imagine how much more we'll lose by if we fire him.

Us keeping him reminds me of how happy I am when a basketball program in our conference hires and retains a s***** coach.

I am about to start a "GO FUND ME " account for a walker for this guy.
 
You think S&C has anything to do with the difference?

Their guys are just naturally bigger. There is only so much that can be done.

I guys look like smurfs because they are smurfy to begin with in relation to those guys.

S&C isn't going to make guys taller or limbs longer.

You want to compete with FSU we need to land kids like Mavety instead of being in the running.
 
GoSU96 said:
You think S&C has anything to do with the difference? Their guys are just naturally bigger. There is only so much that can be done. I guys look like smurfs because they are smurfy to begin with in relation to those guys. S&C isn't going to make guys taller or limbs longer. You want to compete with FSU we need to land kids like Mavety instead of being in the running.

Exactly. This game was lost on the recruiting trail 2 years ago.
 
Josh Sweat and that RB were 2 of the top offense and defense recruits in the country. FSU/Clemson are upper echelon SEC level.
 
You think S&C has anything to do with the difference?

Their guys are just naturally bigger. There is only so much that can be done.

I guys look like smurfs because they are smurfy to begin with in relation to those guys.

S&C isn't going to make guys taller or limbs longer.

You want to compete with FSU we need to land kids like Mavety instead of being in the running.
There is more to be done.....a lot more.

And who is talking about taller players or longer limbs. A 6'1" 300lb lineman for FSU was body slamming Trudo all game long and it was noticed by the Spielman and CO.

Hick's is so far behing the curve today and don't even try to tell me a guy who won the S&C award in the ACC once in 14 seasons when there was only 8 teams as being special. With our piss poor athletic budget for salaries why hasn't another P-5 team offer more than we can and why did Marrone take Luther to Buffalo instead of a man who really has no nutritional approach to the training.

Hick's is the only common denominator we have since 2000. He is nothing special.....just own up to it.
 
There is more to be done...a lot more.

And who is talking about taller players or longer limbs. A 6'1" 300lb lineman for FSU was body slamming Trudo all game long and it was noticed by the Spielman and CO.

Hick's is so far behing the curve today and don't even try to tell me a guy who won the S&C award in the ACC once in 14 seasons when there was only 8 teams as being special. With our piss poor athletic budget for salaries why hasn't another P-5 team offer more than we can and why did Marrone take Luther to Buffalo instead of a man who really has no nutritional approach to the training.

Hick's is the only common denominator we have since 2000. He is nothing special...just own up to it.
But Dwight Freeney . . . .
 
Don't you worry. Our 40-60 ranked recruiting classes will eventually catch up to them.

#Starsdontmatter

#Thesecoachescanrecruit

Exactly! The biggest separation I see is how those young men are so much more physically developed coming in. Where our guys may get to that level by their junior/senior years, they're already there as freshman and or sophs. So we are always behind...and the beat go's on...
 
A common post here is, "our guys are young, give them time to develop". Guess what, FSU and every other team ASLO has young guys, frosh who need time to develop. The only problem is, they are as good or better than most of ours. So yeah, we get better, but so do they.
 
A common post here is, "our guys are young, give them time to develop". Guess what, FSU and every other team ASLO has young guys, frosh who need time to develop. The only problem is, they are as good or better than most of ours. So yeah, we get better, but so do they.
I seriously think some people here haven't fully realized that we switched conferences.
 
longislandcuse said:
2 of our upcoming opponents look insane right now. Fun stuff to look forward to.
college football a game by game thing
 
But Dwight Freeney . . . .
oh...I forgot they are year round neighbors(sarcasm) and besides what do the pro's know over Hick's.

Kid's just out of high school shouldn't be jacking up 3-4 year players here under Hick's program. A few maybe and yes it does happen,but even USF jacked us up and that tells me high school programs in Florida has passed us in the weight room.
 
There is more to be done...a lot more.

And who is talking about taller players or longer limbs. A 6'1" 300lb lineman for FSU was body slamming Trudo all game long and it was noticed by the Spielman and CO.

Hick's is so far behing the curve today and don't even try to tell me a guy who won the S&C award in the ACC once in 14 seasons when there was only 8 teams as being special. With our piss poor athletic budget for salaries why hasn't another P-5 team offer more than we can and why did Marrone take Luther to Buffalo instead of a man who really has no nutritional approach to the training.

Hick's is the only common denominator we have since 2000. He is nothing special...just own up to it.

Agree. I'm not an expert in strength and conditioning, but I've been around it long enough, read enough and done enough to know when I see poor strength training - half squats, poor cleans, speed dumbbell presses won't get you where you need to be in terms of strength. there's more I see in those videos that I shake my head at, but you get the picture. Wonder when the last time Hicks picked up a book on current strength training techniques.
 
are so much stronger than our upperclassmen.Will Hicks should be ashamed of today's performance.

Does FSU have any S&C G.A. available ?

Plus Trudo is getting thrown around like a rag doll today by a guy his same weight.

It's time for the old Hicks to retire and open a landscaping business raking leaves on Saturday.
You never have liked this guy
 
I seriously think some people here haven't fully realized that we switched conferences.

True, but so has Pitt & L'ville. BC and VPI several years earlier. All of whom, when in the BE, we competed with and had some success with. Other than Clemson, FSU & Miami (I know Miami's down now) I don't think most of our fan base would consider NCSU, UNC, UVA, Duke, Wake & GT being anything other than peer schools...with expectations to not only compete with, but to also beat on occasion.
 
orangecuse said:
Exactly! The biggest separation I see is how those young men are so much more physically developed coming in. Where our guys may get to that level by their junior/senior years, they're already there as freshman and or sophs. So we are always behind...and the beat go's on...

Comparing our recruits to FSU will always look this way. We'll always be developing talent vs plug and play guys.

All that being said, Dungey, Strickland, and Clark are all pretty far a long physically.

Clark gave some of those guys some trouble today.
 

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