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Message: [QUOTE="Cheriehoop, post: 1354028, member: 127"] I think part of his success is due to players staying 4 years. I read where only 5 players have left early from MSU for the NBA with Zach Randolph being the only one and done player there. He's an excellent coach who gets good players who defer to the team concept, are willing to sit & learn, and commit to staying 4 years there. Playing a difficult OOC schedule and suffering some losses , he gets a lower seed but he's pretty well a shoo in year in and year out to have a very good Big 10 conference record. What amazes me is realizing that in the 4 years that Travis Trice has been at Michigan State we at SU have had a different point guard every year. 2011-2012 Scoop, 2012-2013 Michael Carter Williams 2013-2014 Tyler Ennis and 2014-2015 Kaleb Joseph. Just a crazy random thought that flitted through my empty head. [/QUOTE]