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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4163902, member: 5685"] To make an easier comparison over 18 years you would see: Current model 7 teams played 18x Notre Dame played 6x 6 teams played 3x It is a joke that we play ND twice as many times as the teams in the Coastal 3+5/5 model 3 teams played 18x 10 teams played 9x ND played 6x 4+ model 4 teams played 18x 9 teams played 8x ND played 6x With the 4+ model vs the 3+5/5 model, you lose one game over 18 seasons vs 9 of the schools, and it is way better than current model. What do you gain vs the 3+5/5 model? You gain 9 more games vs your 4th biggest rival. That is insignificant for SU but for many of the old school ACC teams it makes a difference. For example, Clemson can keep FSU, GA Tech, NC State, Wake. With the 3+5/5 model they need to either sacrifice the big game vs FSU or the most played opponent in Wake. With the 4+ model there is nothing to sacrifice. Why pigeon hole the ACC into the 3+5/5 model when it still leaves issues? [/QUOTE]