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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 212799"] IMO 3 Ws or less and he should be fired. Stability for stability's sake is worse than no stability. See year 4 of GRob. IMO 5 Ws or more he should stay. 4 Ws IMO would depend on how we play. Do we get better as the year goes on? Is their signs of improvement? Do we see any light for 2013? The last three years we have ended the year poorly. That HAS to change IMO if Marrone wants to keep his job. I think Marrone is good enough that he will get to 4 or 5 Ws this year so he will be in that gray area for at least another year, but we better have or short list ready. [/QUOTE]