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Message: [QUOTE="timkay99, post: 524817, member: 635"] Ray Rice was a significant loss for Syracuse to go back to the regime change that started Syracuse on the GRob mess. I understand your reasoning, but in evaluating the coaching staff and one of the reasons Shafer was hired (continuity in coaching and recruiting), any commit he wanted and didn't stay would be a loss for Syracuse on the recruiting trail. Not all losses are the same and we will find out in 3 or 4 years if there were any significant losses or just inconvenient losses (as an example - Carter could just be an inconvenient loss due to the LB numbers now, or he could prove to be a significant loss if he becomes Doug Hogue at Rutgers). [/QUOTE]