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Message: [QUOTE="FrancoPizza, post: 1630403, member: 5195"] That's correct, but even without boxing out fundamentals, by nature of m2m the defender is typically positioned closer to the basket. All things equal, the offensive player is at a disadvantage in those setups. We've never been a good defensive rebounding team, but historically compensated with transition points because our guards were well-positioned on outlets... which in turn would tend to discourage some teams from sending extra players to offensive rebound. The zone creates situations that the offense can exploit from a rebounding perspective, BUT when we do get the defensive rebound we [I]used [/I]to be very effective at pushing the ball because now we have the numbers advantages in the other direction. The inability to fast break is severely exposing the zone's deficiencies in recent years in that respect. We're not making the other teams pay. [/QUOTE]