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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 2301847, member: 2585"] 1. Of course 8-9 win seasons are possible. So many people bailed on Dino at the first sign of trouble. Losses to lesser teams happen. Ask VaTech. 2. My wife works with college kids, I worked with HS kids, my Mom works with college kids. Yeah, sure sometimes that stuff works on some kids. I'd just be careful painting with that broad brush. There are a lot of awesome college kids who are way more selfless than I ever was. Student athletes too. [/QUOTE]