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This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and takeovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When Syracuse had the ball:
Drive Starts: S25, S30, S35, S25, S25, S34, S9, 41, A27, A26, S17, A45 = 443/12 = S37 with 757 to go
KO: A25, A25, A25, A32, A25, A25, A25
Total: Syracuse 6 Army 1
P: 51 to A17, 45 to A15, 55 to A20
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 0
FG: Good from 40, Good from 30, Good from 31
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 0
XP: Good, No Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 1
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 14 Army 2
1r: 4, 8, 3, 1, 3, 13TD, 26, 7, 1, 7, 0, 6, 8, 0, 4, 2, -2v
Total: Syracuse 10 Army 7
1p: 12, 3, 23, I, 6, 6, 31, 7, 11, 11, 7
Total: Syracuse 9 Army 2
First Down Total: Syracuse 19 Army 9
2r: 3(6), 2(7), 4(9), 0, 0, 5(2), 10(3), 15(3), 1(2), 1, 21TD, 3(2), 7, (5(6), 2(7), -2v
Total: Syracuse 10 Army 6
2p: 6(2), 13(7), INTERCEPTION, 19(7), I
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 2
Second Down Total: Syracuse 13 Army 8
3r: 3(4), 4(9), -1, 1(5)
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 4
3p: I, -5(s), I, 14(4), 13(9), 14(4), -5(s)
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 4
Third Down Total: Syracuse 3 Army 8
4r: 0
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 1
4p: 29(4)
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Army 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 20 Army 18
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Army 8
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 36 Army 26
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -15, -5 Syracuse 0 Army 2
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 50 Army 30
Big Plays (8): 23yd pass, 31 yd pass, 26yd run, 4th down hold, 21yd TD run, Interception, Interception, 29yd pass.
When Army had the ball:
Drive Starts: A25, A17, A25, A15, A32, A25, A32, A25, A25, A25, A20 = 266/11 = A24 with 834 to go.
KO: S25, S25, S25, 50
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 3
P: 45 to S30, 43 to S35, 31 to S34, 45 to S9, 32 to S41
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 3
FG: Good from 38
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 1
XP: Good, Try-No Good
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 1
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
1r: 0, 6, 5, 4(5), 1, 4, 2, 15, 1, 1, 2, 17(p), 7, 4
Total: Syracuse 7 Army 7
1p: 7, 1, 2, I, I, I, -10(s), 5, -4(s), I, 80TD
Total: Syracuse 8 Army 3
First Down Total: Syracuse 15 Army 10
2r: 5, 2(3), 7, 1, 4(8), 3(6), 2(8), 8, 4(9), -1, -5, 6
Total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
2p: 3(4), 8(5), -6(s), I, 3(11), INTERCEPTION, 3(5), 21, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Army 4
Second Down Total: Syracuse 9 Army 12
3r: 4(5), 6(1), 4(3), 2(4), 12(25),2(2), 5(6), 3(2), 8(5), 2(9), 2(8), -4
Total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
3p: 8(5), I, I, 16(2), INTERCEPTION
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 3
Third Down Total: Syracuse Army
4r: 4(1), 2(1), 4(1)
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 3
4p: I
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Army 3
Total on running plays: Syracuse 15 Army 26
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Army 10
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 28 Army 32
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -10, +15 Syracuse 1 Army 1
Game total when Army had the ball: Syracuse 37 Army 44
Big Plays (4): INTERCEPTION, 4th down hold, 21 yd pass, 80 yd TD pass.
Overall Game Total: Syracuse 87 Army 74
Comments: The first thing that went in our favor in this game was field position. Jack Stonehouse kicked the ball deep into Army territory from where they were loathe to go for it on fourth down, which is what sustained their two drives. Our average drive start was our own 37 vs. the 24 for Army. That mattered.
The first half winning plays totals were 32-39. The second half was 50-31 for the 82-70 final.
We had a hard time taking over control of the contest due to inadequate play on 3rd down. We were 0-4 on runs and 0-3 in the first half on passes. When we went 3-1 on passes in the second half, things opened up. Army was 4-4 on their two long drives but made it on 4th down three times so they were really 7-1. The rest of the time they were 2-7 on third down and had an incomplete pass on one fourth down.
On first down passes we were 9-2 and 7-0 in the second half. We gained 117 yards on those 11 plays. Army was 2-8 on their first down passes for a net 0 yards due to sacks until they hit that 80 yarder on their last play from scrimmage against the reserves.
Similar games in the Babers Era:
This was 87-74, a +13 game. SU won 29-16.
2018 SU 109 Western Michigan 96 = +13 SU won 55-42
2018 SU 113 North Carolina State 96 = +17 SU won 51-41
2018 SU 117 Wake Forest 107 = +10 SU won 41-24
2018 SU 110 Boston College 96 = +14 SU won 42-21
2019 SU 113 Western Michigan 99 = +14 SU won 52-33
We are looking more and more like the 2018 team.
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and takeovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When Syracuse had the ball:
Drive Starts: S25, S30, S35, S25, S25, S34, S9, 41, A27, A26, S17, A45 = 443/12 = S37 with 757 to go
KO: A25, A25, A25, A32, A25, A25, A25
Total: Syracuse 6 Army 1
P: 51 to A17, 45 to A15, 55 to A20
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 0
FG: Good from 40, Good from 30, Good from 31
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 0
XP: Good, No Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 1
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 14 Army 2
1r: 4, 8, 3, 1, 3, 13TD, 26, 7, 1, 7, 0, 6, 8, 0, 4, 2, -2v
Total: Syracuse 10 Army 7
1p: 12, 3, 23, I, 6, 6, 31, 7, 11, 11, 7
Total: Syracuse 9 Army 2
First Down Total: Syracuse 19 Army 9
2r: 3(6), 2(7), 4(9), 0, 0, 5(2), 10(3), 15(3), 1(2), 1, 21TD, 3(2), 7, (5(6), 2(7), -2v
Total: Syracuse 10 Army 6
2p: 6(2), 13(7), INTERCEPTION, 19(7), I
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 2
Second Down Total: Syracuse 13 Army 8
3r: 3(4), 4(9), -1, 1(5)
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 4
3p: I, -5(s), I, 14(4), 13(9), 14(4), -5(s)
Total: Syracuse 3 Army 4
Third Down Total: Syracuse 3 Army 8
4r: 0
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 1
4p: 29(4)
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Army 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 20 Army 18
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Army 8
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 36 Army 26
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -15, -5 Syracuse 0 Army 2
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 50 Army 30
Big Plays (8): 23yd pass, 31 yd pass, 26yd run, 4th down hold, 21yd TD run, Interception, Interception, 29yd pass.
When Army had the ball:
Drive Starts: A25, A17, A25, A15, A32, A25, A32, A25, A25, A25, A20 = 266/11 = A24 with 834 to go.
KO: S25, S25, S25, 50
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 3
P: 45 to S30, 43 to S35, 31 to S34, 45 to S9, 32 to S41
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 3
FG: Good from 38
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 1
XP: Good, Try-No Good
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 1
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
1r: 0, 6, 5, 4(5), 1, 4, 2, 15, 1, 1, 2, 17(p), 7, 4
Total: Syracuse 7 Army 7
1p: 7, 1, 2, I, I, I, -10(s), 5, -4(s), I, 80TD
Total: Syracuse 8 Army 3
First Down Total: Syracuse 15 Army 10
2r: 5, 2(3), 7, 1, 4(8), 3(6), 2(8), 8, 4(9), -1, -5, 6
Total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
2p: 3(4), 8(5), -6(s), I, 3(11), INTERCEPTION, 3(5), 21, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Army 4
Second Down Total: Syracuse 9 Army 12
3r: 4(5), 6(1), 4(3), 2(4), 12(25),2(2), 5(6), 3(2), 8(5), 2(9), 2(8), -4
Total: Syracuse 4 Army 8
3p: 8(5), I, I, 16(2), INTERCEPTION
Total: Syracuse 2 Army 3
Third Down Total: Syracuse Army
4r: 4(1), 2(1), 4(1)
Total: Syracuse 0 Army 3
4p: I
Total: Syracuse 1 Army 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Army 3
Total on running plays: Syracuse 15 Army 26
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Army 10
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 28 Army 32
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -10, +15 Syracuse 1 Army 1
Game total when Army had the ball: Syracuse 37 Army 44
Big Plays (4): INTERCEPTION, 4th down hold, 21 yd pass, 80 yd TD pass.
Overall Game Total: Syracuse 87 Army 74
Comments: The first thing that went in our favor in this game was field position. Jack Stonehouse kicked the ball deep into Army territory from where they were loathe to go for it on fourth down, which is what sustained their two drives. Our average drive start was our own 37 vs. the 24 for Army. That mattered.
The first half winning plays totals were 32-39. The second half was 50-31 for the 82-70 final.
We had a hard time taking over control of the contest due to inadequate play on 3rd down. We were 0-4 on runs and 0-3 in the first half on passes. When we went 3-1 on passes in the second half, things opened up. Army was 4-4 on their two long drives but made it on 4th down three times so they were really 7-1. The rest of the time they were 2-7 on third down and had an incomplete pass on one fourth down.
On first down passes we were 9-2 and 7-0 in the second half. We gained 117 yards on those 11 plays. Army was 2-8 on their first down passes for a net 0 yards due to sacks until they hit that 80 yarder on their last play from scrimmage against the reserves.
Similar games in the Babers Era:
This was 87-74, a +13 game. SU won 29-16.
2018 SU 109 Western Michigan 96 = +13 SU won 55-42
2018 SU 113 North Carolina State 96 = +17 SU won 51-41
2018 SU 117 Wake Forest 107 = +10 SU won 41-24
2018 SU 110 Boston College 96 = +14 SU won 42-21
2019 SU 113 Western Michigan 99 = +14 SU won 52-33
We are looking more and more like the 2018 team.