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This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 20 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 15 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent. .
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so i wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting tam has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. . 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
When Syracuse had the ball:
KO: Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25
Total: Syracuse 8 Pittsburgh 0
P: 38 to Pitt 28, 33 to 34, 38 to Pitt 20, 59 to Pitt 15, 45 to Pitt 40
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 2
FG: Good from 33, Good from 29, Good from 54
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 0
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 4 Pittsburgh 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 2
1r: 4, 2(8), 2TD, 4, 7, 7, 13, 5, 2, 13, 2, 2, 3, 5TD, 2, 4, 8, 2, 3, 5, -1v
Total: Syracuse 13 Pittsburgh 8
1p: 9, 19, I, 6, I, I, I, Interception, -3s, 27, I, I, 9, Interception
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 9
First Down Total: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 17
2r: 7, 5(6), 5(4), Fumble-TD, 2(3), 2(3), 4, 0, 1(7), 0, 3(2), 4(8), -11
Total: Syracuse 8 Pittsburgh 5
2p: 7(1), 0, 29, I, I, -1, 7(8), I, 15(6), 22, I, I, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 8
Second Down Total: Syracuse 13 Pittsburgh 13
3r: 8(6), 6(1), 3(1), 2(30, 21, 5(1)
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 1
3p: 6(6), 1TD, I, -4, 6(6), I, I, -6s, 22(6), I, 42, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 7
Third Down Total: Syracuse 10 Pittsburgh 8
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Total on running plays: Syracuse 26 Pittsburgh 14
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 15 Pittsburgh 24
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 41 Pittsburgh 38
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +15, -4, +5, +5 Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 1
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 62 Pittsburgh 41
When Pittsburgh had the ball:
KO: SU 25, SU 25, SU 25, SU 20, SU 25, SU 25, SU 25, SU 25
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 8
P: 43 to SU 9, 30 to Pitt 42, 34 to SU 42, 52 to SU 6, 34 to SU 27
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 2
FG: Good from 54, Good from 55, Good from 45
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 3
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 5
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 18
1r: 2, -8 Fumble, 6, 8, 1, 9, 4, 17, 1(5), 7, 11, 14, 1, 0, 29, 3, 25, 1(8), 5, 5, 4, 3, 9, 4
Total: Syracuse 9 Pittsburgh 15
1p: 9, 7, I, I, Interception, -4, I, 8, 11(5)
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 4
First Down Total: Syracuse 14 Pittsburgh 19
2r: 1(1), 69(4), 5, -1, 3, 2(14), 3, -2, 6(2), 7TD, 1(5), 5(6), 397), 6(10, 3(6)
Total: Syracuse 7 Pittsburgh 8
2p: 11(8), I, -7s, I, 32(4), 68TD, -6s Fumble
Total: Syracuse 4 Pittsburgh 3
Second Down Total: Syracuse 11 Pittsburgh 11
3r: -3, 1(4), 7(1), 3TD
Total: Syracuse 2 Pittsburgh 2
3p: 0, 4(16), 2(2), -11s, I, I, I, I
Total: Syracuse 7 Pittsburgh 1
Third Down Total: Syracuse 9 Pittsburgh 3
4r: 3(3)
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 1
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 26
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Pittsburgh 8
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 34 Pittsburgh 34
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +5, +5, +5, +5 Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 4
Game total when Pittsburgh had the ball: Syracuse 37 Pittsburgh 56
Overall game total: Syracuse 99 Pittsburgh 97
Comments: People have suggested we really didn’t have a good offensive game, despite scoring 37 points. 62-41 is pretty good although we could have passed it better. Neither team did very well passing the ball, (we won 16 of 24 Pitt passing plays). Both teams ran the ball well. A big thing is that we didn’t have our usual advantage in special teams, (18-2 vs. 3-18). We didn’t do poorly but Pitt had an exceptional game with three field goals totaling 154 yards. Excluding overtime, (in which both teams are handed the ball on the other team’s 25 yard line), Syracuse’s average starting position was its own 31. Pitt’s was its own 33. We had 961 yards to the goal line when we got the ball, (in 14 possessions). They had 864 yards to go, (in 13 possessions). If both teams had the same number of possessions in regulation, (let’s use 14), that’s about 31 extra yards for Pitt, (14/13 x 864 = 930). Basically, there was little difference in what been a major advantage for the ‘Cuse. The result was an overtime game that could have gone either way and didn’t go our way.
One anomaly: The offense is typically more penalized than the defense when you factor out “tack on” penalties, (41 times to 16 going into this game). But 7 of the 8 non-tack on penalties in this game were against the defense. I don’t know why or what it means.
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 20 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 15 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent. .
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so i wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting tam has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. . 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
When Syracuse had the ball:
KO: Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25, Pitt 25
Total: Syracuse 8 Pittsburgh 0
P: 38 to Pitt 28, 33 to 34, 38 to Pitt 20, 59 to Pitt 15, 45 to Pitt 40
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 2
FG: Good from 33, Good from 29, Good from 54
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 0
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 4 Pittsburgh 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 2
1r: 4, 2(8), 2TD, 4, 7, 7, 13, 5, 2, 13, 2, 2, 3, 5TD, 2, 4, 8, 2, 3, 5, -1v
Total: Syracuse 13 Pittsburgh 8
1p: 9, 19, I, 6, I, I, I, Interception, -3s, 27, I, I, 9, Interception
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 9
First Down Total: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 17
2r: 7, 5(6), 5(4), Fumble-TD, 2(3), 2(3), 4, 0, 1(7), 0, 3(2), 4(8), -11
Total: Syracuse 8 Pittsburgh 5
2p: 7(1), 0, 29, I, I, -1, 7(8), I, 15(6), 22, I, I, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 8
Second Down Total: Syracuse 13 Pittsburgh 13
3r: 8(6), 6(1), 3(1), 2(30, 21, 5(1)
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 1
3p: 6(6), 1TD, I, -4, 6(6), I, I, -6s, 22(6), I, 42, I
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 7
Third Down Total: Syracuse 10 Pittsburgh 8
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Total on running plays: Syracuse 26 Pittsburgh 14
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 15 Pittsburgh 24
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 41 Pittsburgh 38
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +15, -4, +5, +5 Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 1
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 62 Pittsburgh 41
When Pittsburgh had the ball:
KO: SU 25, SU 25, SU 25, SU 20, SU 25, SU 25, SU 25, SU 25
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 8
P: 43 to SU 9, 30 to Pitt 42, 34 to SU 42, 52 to SU 6, 34 to SU 27
Total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 2
FG: Good from 54, Good from 55, Good from 45
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 3
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 5
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 3 Pittsburgh 18
1r: 2, -8 Fumble, 6, 8, 1, 9, 4, 17, 1(5), 7, 11, 14, 1, 0, 29, 3, 25, 1(8), 5, 5, 4, 3, 9, 4
Total: Syracuse 9 Pittsburgh 15
1p: 9, 7, I, I, Interception, -4, I, 8, 11(5)
Total: Syracuse 5 Pittsburgh 4
First Down Total: Syracuse 14 Pittsburgh 19
2r: 1(1), 69(4), 5, -1, 3, 2(14), 3, -2, 6(2), 7TD, 1(5), 5(6), 397), 6(10, 3(6)
Total: Syracuse 7 Pittsburgh 8
2p: 11(8), I, -7s, I, 32(4), 68TD, -6s Fumble
Total: Syracuse 4 Pittsburgh 3
Second Down Total: Syracuse 11 Pittsburgh 11
3r: -3, 1(4), 7(1), 3TD
Total: Syracuse 2 Pittsburgh 2
3p: 0, 4(16), 2(2), -11s, I, I, I, I
Total: Syracuse 7 Pittsburgh 1
Third Down Total: Syracuse 9 Pittsburgh 3
4r: 3(3)
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 1
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 18 Pittsburgh 26
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 16 Pittsburgh 8
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 34 Pittsburgh 34
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +5, +5, +5, +5 Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 4
Game total when Pittsburgh had the ball: Syracuse 37 Pittsburgh 56
Overall game total: Syracuse 99 Pittsburgh 97
Comments: People have suggested we really didn’t have a good offensive game, despite scoring 37 points. 62-41 is pretty good although we could have passed it better. Neither team did very well passing the ball, (we won 16 of 24 Pitt passing plays). Both teams ran the ball well. A big thing is that we didn’t have our usual advantage in special teams, (18-2 vs. 3-18). We didn’t do poorly but Pitt had an exceptional game with three field goals totaling 154 yards. Excluding overtime, (in which both teams are handed the ball on the other team’s 25 yard line), Syracuse’s average starting position was its own 31. Pitt’s was its own 33. We had 961 yards to the goal line when we got the ball, (in 14 possessions). They had 864 yards to go, (in 13 possessions). If both teams had the same number of possessions in regulation, (let’s use 14), that’s about 31 extra yards for Pitt, (14/13 x 864 = 930). Basically, there was little difference in what been a major advantage for the ‘Cuse. The result was an overtime game that could have gone either way and didn’t go our way.
One anomaly: The offense is typically more penalized than the defense when you factor out “tack on” penalties, (41 times to 16 going into this game). But 7 of the 8 non-tack on penalties in this game were against the defense. I don’t know why or what it means.