Winston not charged!

[FAL]

Wait for the link...

 

[FAL]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...dium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football

 

[storange]

shocker

 

[Orangello]

I am flabergasted !!!!!

 

[PeteCalvin]

Cue Laura Brannigan:

"Call-ing Glo-ri-ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

 

[orangenirvana]

A great day for all young entitled jocks with hopes and dreams of becoming good enough at a sport that they too can get away with rape.

 

[rundeal]

Believe it or not, based on what I've read, I think the prosecution felt they didn't have a strong enough case to take to trial. Years ago I might've rushed to judgment on an issue like this - no, not so fast. In this instance, I don't think the "victim" was a credible witness...

 

[bnoro]

The press conference was absolutely disgusting. The DA making sarcastic remarks at the stand, the reporters laughing, all the smiles. So ridiculous.

 

[hplare]

Obviously "It was consensual" gives a free pass. Shameful.

 

[cuseguy]

Shocking.

 

[NKR1978]

The toxicology report that show minimal amounts of alcohol in her system and no evidence of date rape drugs, kinds of calls into question some of the details of her account.

 

[Chip]

To be honest, I haven't read any of the details of this case. But judging by twitter and some of the responses here, it appears that the issue continues to be so sensitive that there can be no possibility that a female would make up her story.

The downside of being an athlete. No one is going to believe you in cases like this.

That doesn't excuse the circus atmosphere around the press conference.

 

[jgeorge322]

The press conference was absolutely disgusting. The DA making sarcastic remarks at the stand, the reporters laughing, all the smiles. So ridiculous.

i disagree. i thought the DA answered the questions very truthfully. some of those questions were so amateur and the DA did a lot to protect the accuser and make sure people had empathy.

i also thought the decision not to charge was proper. the standard for being charged in fl is a reasonable liklihood of a conviction. the burden of proof at trial is reasonable doubt. so, did the DA feel that based on the facts he had a reasonable chance of convincing a jury there is no reasonable doubt a crime occurred? based on the girl's intoxication, memory lapses, the allegation it was consenual sex and nothing other than the girl's word to contradict, it appears the proper decision was made. not saying a crime didn't happen but i don't think the DA is wronging anyone.

 

[Chip]

A great day for all young entitled jocks with hopes and dreams of becoming good enough at a sport that they too can get away with rape.

Did you roll this out before you posted?

 

[PhatOrange]

Good for him. It sounded like bunk from the get go.

 

[bnoro]

i disagree. i thought the DA answered the questions very truthfully. some of those questions were so amateur and the DA did a lot to protect the accuser and make sure people had empathy.

i also thought the decision not to charge was proper. the standard for being charged in fl is a reasonable liklihood of a conviction. the burden of proof at trial is reasonable doubt. so, did the DA feel that based on the facts he had a reasonable chance of convincing a jury there is no reasonable doubt a crime occurred? based on the girl's intoxication, memory lapses, the allegation it was consenual s e x and nothing other than the girl's word to contradict, it appears the proper decision was made. not saying a crime didn't happen but i don't think the DA is wronging anyone.

Well it wasn't that bad compared to Jameis's attorney and the idiots asking him questions. Total disaster.

 

[RCDICK44]

I've felt from the git go that the evidence wasn't there for a prosecution of the case and could have easily been consentual.

 

[jgeorge322]

Well it wasn't that bad compared to Jameis's attorney and the idiots asking him questions. Total disaster.

i missed that. please fill me in.

 

[Lou_C]

A great day for all young entitled jocks with hopes and dreams of becoming good enough at a sport that they too can get away with rape.

???

She gave multiple stories to multiple people, and she couldn't report any detail of the incident, where it happened, how she got there, who it was, etc. Yet there was no evidence that she was more than very slightly intoxicated (.10), had any kind of date rape drug in her system, or had sustained a blow to the head to impair her memory, all three of which were her story at one point to investigators.

I don't see where the cover up is supposed to be. It's impossible to even figure out what her real story is with the multiple accounts she gave.

This is bad all around. If you read the report, I think this thing got away from the accuser. It was her friend that called the police after the accuser told her "what happened", and that friend also told the girl's parents and the family began controlling it. I think she did something stupid (and Winston did something stupid), then she said something stupid, and because of stuff other people did, her life is going to be ruined, and Winston's was almost ruined (but won't be), and the whole thing is sad considering that 20 year old college students typically do stupid things.

 

[bnoro]

i missed that. please fill me in.

@DanWolken Jansen asked how he would characterize Winston's behavior having sex with someone he didn't know... That really happened

@DanWolken Oh no. Now Jansen is talking about athletes being targeted on college campuses

@Matt_HayesSN Another great reporter just asked "what about the integrity of your client having sex with another woman while he had a girlfriend."

 

[jgeorge322]

bnoro dear god, is that clip serious? is she really inferring a conspiracy?

 

[rrlbees]

I have no idea if he raped her or not. But there is no doubt in my mind he wasn't being charged. Too many influential people and too much money around that program. Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

 

[orangenirvana]

Did you roll this out before you posted?

I don't know what happened in this instance but you're naive to think this doesn't happen way too often.

 

[Lou_C]

I have no idea if he raped her or not. But there is no doubt in my mind he wasn't being changed. Too many influential people and too much money around that program.

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Really, even though players have been charged before, by the same police department and prosecutor? On charges both frivolous and serious, including rape? Even though these very sample people charged and have pending right now a rape case against an FSU player that was a MUCH bigger contributor to the team that Winston was at the time this incident happened?

And even though these very same people in the past have charged a Heisman frontrunner in the midst of a national championship run, on an incident that would have been incredibly easier to blow off and didn't have to be charged at all?

I mean, do you have any reason for thinking that in this case, or is it just your general cynicism toward big time college sports?

 

[Chip]

I don't know what happened in this instance but you're naive to think this doesn't happen way too often.

So basically you're accusing Winston of rape because other athletes do it?