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Message: [QUOTE="KevMonstah, post: 2225721, member: 327"] the 2015-2016 team didn't lack talent, it just didn't play well for long stretches of the season. you could make the case that none of the last three years have lacked talent, but their records haven't been up to the expected JB team. if MSU is waiting in the 2nd round, SU's last three years go 18-13 (banned), 20-14 (ncaa round of 32), and 19-15 (nit 2nd round). the final four makes things look better. what is hurting SU is that they can't build up any continuity of players learning to play in JB's system, and it seems that the staff hasn't quite settled on chasing guys who leave early or recruiting guys to play for a longer career. schools thrive either way, but SU's trying to straddle the two, and it hasn't set consistently yet. their worst team by record is two years before Pearl showed up, an entirely different era. are you talking talent or performance. last year's was not very good by performance at all. kev [/QUOTE]