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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 4918061, member: 405"] These are the other football teams who we - even at this low point - outdraw on average in the Nielsen ratings: [LIST] [*]NC State, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Wake Forest [*]Baylor, Cincinnati, Houston, Central Florida [*]Rutgers, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue [*]Arizona State, Cal [*]We outdraw pretty much all of the G5 teams on TV [/LIST] That's what I mean when I talk about how we have a brand in football, despite a generation of bad results. People still watch our games at about a Top 50 level, Imagine if we have a comeback under Fran. Our basketball fans take over opponents' arenas up and down the east coast. We can do that for football, too, if we can just start upgrading the talent and stringing together some bowl seasons. [/QUOTE]