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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 4765568, member: 60"] So no one can say where they would be in the list of WR groups in the ACC, right? Listen, they have their moments. They have potential, for sure. But this is a position group where we will have to make up ground in other areas because they aren't at the level to be truly competitive in the ACC. This is what I mean. It's fine to say they will be good. It's fine to say they have good moments. But without OG, this isn't an upper level ACC WR group right now. They probably aren't even a mid-level group if we're being really honest. And that's fine. No team is perfect across the board. But we need them to grow during the year, we need Beck to be smart in his offensive strategy which no doubt he will and we need Shrader to be super man a little bit, which, if healthy, I think he can do. Listen, our D and Shrader and how the OL could be pieced together was always going to be our ticket. [/QUOTE]