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Message: [QUOTE="cliftonparksufan, post: 489830, member: 9"] The same way you have felt for the last 35 years (or however old you are). All programs go through this but it seems like the Cuse more than others. This is exactly what Shafer was talking about (and I am going to paraphrase him with some poetic license) We're upstate NY'ers. We get up in the winter. We go out and shovel 3 feet of snow, go work 8 hours in the quarry, shovel another 3 feet when we get home, have a 12 pack of Genny Cream Ale or Utica Club, then get back up again the next morning and shovel another 3 feet of snow. And that's the week before Memorial Day. [/QUOTE]