ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[HRE Otto IV]

If the B16 really wants to take advantage of the Pacific time zone, they will need to add 2-4 more P10 teams.

During conference season the B16 will only have one game played out West per week. That isn't much market penetration.

Also, the P10 can have a 10:30 pm game now because they have 6 games to chose from during conference season. The B16 will only have one, and they won't have Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan in those games and maybe not even Wisconsin or Nebraska either. So you are likely looking at 3 conference games a year. That isn't enough to have take full advantage of the "after dark" market.

This goes the same for the B12. They will need to add 3+ teams out West to make the time zone claims be worth while.

 

[Scooch]

How the Big Ten sparked a realignment avalanche: Jim Delany on adding Nebraska and more

Delany outlines the Big Ten’s 2009-10 expansion process and how it shook up multiple conferences and created more instability.

theathletic.com

At least he acknowledges that adding Maryland and Rutgers was pure greed for cable TV money.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This thread is insane. 99.9% of the things our fans mention here never happen, haven't happened and won't happen.

TV money is drying up.

Gen Z is significantly less interested in sports than every generation before them.

At this point there's less opportunity for conferences to generate more money unless long term trends change.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

This thread is insane. 99.9% of the things our fans mention here never happen, haven't happened and won't happen.

TV money is drying up.

Gen Z is significantly less interested in sports than every generation before them.

At this point there's less opportunity for conferences to generate more money unless long term trends change.

Is the money really drying up though? You have CBS, NBC, ABC/ESPN, Fox, Apple, Amazon, CW all looking to pay for a quality product. And maybe even Netflix someday.

IMO the money will always be there for the B16/SEC. But expansion must be about quality/subscribers and not simply quantity of teams/inventory. Where the money might dry up is the other conferences. If all the money is going to the TV rights of the B16/SEC, there will not be much left for everyone else.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Is the money really drying up though? You have CBS, NBC, ABC/ESPN, Fox, Apple, Amazon, CW all looking to pay for a quality product. And maybe even Netflix someday.

IMO the money will always be there for the B16/SEC. But expansion must be about quality/subscribers and not simply quantity of teams/inventory. Where the money might dry up is the other conferences. If all the money is going to the TV rights of the B16/SEC, there will not be much left for everyone else.

All TV ratings are declining across the board and Gen Z doesn't care that much about sports nor live television.

The Big and Sec have their limits too. These threads on conference realignment were started in some cases were started over 5 years ago.

Much of what people predicted back then still hasn't happened.

 

[kcsu]

Is the money really drying up though? You have CBS, NBC, ABC/ESPN, Fox, Apple, Amazon, CW all looking to pay for a quality product. And maybe even Netflix someday.

IMO the money will always be there for the B16/SEC. But expansion must be about quality/subscribers and not simply quantity of teams/inventory. Where the money might dry up is the other conferences. If all the money is going to the TV rights of the B16/SEC, there will not be much left for everyone else.T

Think of this as a Home Depot stock. The growth spurt is over. Long term things will stay stable and increase at much lower and slower rate.

 

[elimunelson]

thought this article was pretty good and even handed.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[Stern]

 

[CarolinaCuse]

I mean, this just sorta makes sense, right? I mean, definitely more so than Gonzaga joining for hoops only. Interesting as to where this puts Utah. Big 12 went with BYU. Would they ever allow Utah in as well?

 

[kcsu]

We are so lucky to have the deal we have and the GOR. Long term the ACC is going to be just fine.

 

[dasher]

We are so lucky to have the deal we have and the GOR. Long term the ACC is going to be just fine.

It wasn't that long ago that I got in to a "discussion" here with people that didn't think the GOR was helping and that the ACC should just let anyone that wants to leave, leave.

 

[texascpa]

It wasn't that long ago that I got in to a "discussion" here with people that didn't think the GOR was helping and that the ACC should just let anyone that wants to leave, leave.

And lawyers will find a way to get out of the GOR. It's been like 3 years and those lawyers still can't find a way out of it.

 

[kcsu]

It wasn't that long ago that I got in to a "discussion" here with people that didn't think the GOR was helping and that the ACC should just let anyone that wants to leave, leave.

People that don't understand the actual situation. Syracuse is very fortunate.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

My son (an Arizona Wildcat) and are are constantly jockeying for whose school feels more screwed in the Conference alignment cluster.

He's leading now, although i gotta think Arizona will find a way somewhere

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[cusefan88]

Bring Nebraska back to the Big 12!

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I wonder if the Big12 changed all the locks after Colorado left, or if CU's keys will still work.

 

[kcsu]

And lawyers will find a way to get out of the GOR. It's been like 3 years and those lawyers still can't find a way out of it.

Read it. And read how they hog tied the states from any power over the agreement. The GOR is rock solid.

 

[WoadBlue]

My son (an Arizona Wildcat) and are are constantly jockeying for whose school feels more screwed in the Conference alignment cluster.

He's leading now, although i gotta think Arizona will find a way somewhere

Arizona is less available than ASU, for football reasons. ASU's football TV numbers are much better.

 

[WoadBlue]

Even John Skipper has talked publicly about how the ACC adding the most valuable members of the Pac would benefit the ACC, perhaps a good deal. Colorado is not among that group.

 

[baggerbob]

Even John Skipper has talked publicly about how the ACC adding the most valuable members of the Pac would benefit the ACC, perhaps a good deal. Colorado is not among that group.

On the Uconn board it says they think Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona St are going to the Big 12.
That leaves Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon St, Washington, Washington St.
Would be a good time for our Commissioner to get his butt out West, and convince the leftovers to join the ACC. More filler for the ACC network, and no need for continue filler on some of the nonsense they have now.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

On the Uconn board it says they think Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona St are going to the Big 12.
That leaves Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon St, Washington, Washington St.
Would be a good time for our Commissioner to get his butt out West, and convince the leftovers to join the ACC. More filler for the ACC network, and no need for continue filler on some of the nonsense they have now.

IVe been floating this idea for months

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[longtimefan]

Colorado in the PAC-12 was never a good fit.

If they do bring Utah, Arizona, and ASU along, then the entire South division of the PAC will be gone, leaving the North division behind.