Grant gone according to inside source.

[KCJax03]

you won't see anything until mid next week either way

Why is that? The Ennis news seemed to hit the news outlets almost immediately, well ESPN anyway.

 

[IthacaMatt]

We aren't winning a NC with Grant back next year. That is why people shouldn't freak out as having a rebuilding year after 5 straight top 4 NCAA seed seasons. Once Ennis declared we weren't winning a NC 2015-2016 season hopefully we will be back and we should because only Christmas is a Sr. and unless McCollough or Roberson blow up they should be on the Hill for the 2015-2016 season.

I think with Ennis and Grant, we certainly should have been a contender. That's too bad.

I wish Tyler well, and if Grant goes, well, he was a fun player and I hope he makes it.

 

[bozophobe]

As I said in a earlier post, the NCAA can't change NBA rules to keep kids here longer but they can change their own rule: allow players to remain eligible until they actually sign a pro contract, to give them an option of returning if they don't get drafted where they thought they might go and can't catch on with a team or don't like the terms of a contract proposal. That actually empowers the kids in their contract negotiations and it will help the NBA because they won't get a player until he's really ready.

On the other end of things, allow a player who has played professionally to return to school to get his degree and, if he has any eligibility left, he could use it to play for the schools' team for a year, work on his game and try to launch himself for another shot at the NBA. Baseball players who don't make the big leagues on the first try get to use the minor leagues as a trampoline to bounce back up to the majors. If the colleges are the NBA's and NFL's minor leagues, let's allow them to do the same thing in those sports.

Boeheim's really on here. Take all the guess work out of whether a raw draftee can actually make it through camp. I don't see why colleges and the NBA aren't in agreement over a policy change that might increase the chance of everyone knowing whether someone is ready or not.

 

[Flacusian]

As I said in a earlier post, the NCAA can't change NBA rules to keep kids here longer but they can change their own rule: allow players to remain eligible until they actually sign a pro contract, to give them an option of returning if they don't get drafted where they thought they might go and can't catch on with a team or don't like the terms of a contract proposal. That actually empowers the kids in their contract negotiations and it will help the NBA because they won't get a player until he's really ready.

On the other end of things, allow a player who has played professionally to return to school to get his degree and, if he has any eligibility left, he could use it to play for the schools' team for a year, work on his game and try to launch himself for another shot at the NBA. Baseball players who don't make the big leagues on the first try get to use the minor leagues as a trampoline to bounce back up to the majors. If the colleges are the NBA's and NFL's minor leagues, let's allow them to do the same thing in those sports.

Great plan! What is in the way of getting this to be adopted as policy? It seems like a no brainer and a win / win for all parties involved.

 

[cuseguy]

Look at the bright side. Three of our worst shooters are leaving. The people playing in their places can't be worse shooters. If Grant is gone, get prepared for one of the worst early season schedules ever.

You haven't seen McCullough shoot yet. He can't.

 

[bozophobe]

Let 'em all go to camp. See how they handle LeBron's 260 pound elbow.

 

[bozophobe]

One more thing - has anyone actually seen Grant in a classroom in the last few weeks? Don't want to ever put too much stock in rumors - but the upside is that a simple refutation can solve things quickly. So, come on you Quad insiders. Has Jerami been shifting uncomfortably in those odd chair/desk combo thingies?

 

[SU Pride]

Not a single "Congrats & Good Luck" so far.

Grats & GL JG! ... if it's true

 

[SoBeCuse]

Not a single "Congrats & Good Luck" so far.

Grats & GL JG! ... if it's true

Aww...shucks. That's more of an in person exchange if you ask me. LOL at something like that on a message board.

 

[rrlbees]

you probably won't see anything until mid next week either way

Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Short of my wife banging Ajou Deng this is as low as i have felt in a long time.

C'mon...it could be worse.
What if it was Jim Calhoun?

 

[tee1222]

Not a single "Congrats & Good Luck" so far.

Grats & GL JG! ... if it's true

Hello
http://syracusefan.com/threads/grant-gone-according-to-inside-source.73729/page-2#post-1016381

 

[cuseguy]

Tuesday or Wednesday.

He should have said he was coming back right after the last game. When he didn't, good sign he was gone.

Kids come to SU to go pro, not to win national titles. National titles are just a possibility.

 

[gilardino]

IMO grant and Ennis are not ready

 

[Scotch]

He should have said he was coming back right after the last game. When he didn't, good sign he was gone.

Kids come to SU to go pro, not to win national titles. National titles are just a possibility.

Dude, take it easy. National titles are "just a possibility" at every school. Kids want to go pro - Tyler and Jerami have an opportunity to go in the first round, and they are taking it. Most kids around the country are making the same decision. This isn't unique to Cuse. The fact that we have so many kids leaving early is a testament to JB's talent evaluation skills, and will only help us land more talented kids in the future.

 

[Madbiker]

No chance Grant slips to the 2nd round. Grant is like Aaron Gordon from Arizona both are freak athletes who can be good defenders with their long arms but neither can hit a jumper. Grant wouldn't get by Danny Ainge's 2nd 1st round pick in the high teens.
Donte Greene couldn't play defense that won't be Grant's problem.

Gordon is much smoother with the ball in his hands. He is stronger, a good passer, and a proven good defender in a strong m2m system.[/quote]
Grant will get selected late 1 st round, 24-30 purely on athleticism. But what's his position. Certainly not big or strong enough to play an NBA 4. That leaves the 3 (SF) except currently he has no 3 position offensive skills. Poor perimeter mid range shot, no 3 pt shot, very limited moves off the bounce. He'll end up in the D league and soon be out. But if he can get a few million more power to him. Just think he'd have a better chance at sticking and having a decent career if he came back and developed his skills and moved up in the draft next year.

 

[Jasoncuse]

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No chance Grant slips to the 2nd round. Grant is like Aaron Gordon from Arizona both are freak athletes who can be good defenders with their long arms but neither can hit a jumper. Grant wouldn't get by Danny Ainge's 2nd 1st round pick in the high teens.
Donte Greene couldn't play defense that won't be Grant's problem.

Gordon is a much more fluid athlete and gets up and down the floor better. Grant is a prototypical long athlete but I don't think he's fluid enough, similar to Warrick. I think he could have improved his stock greatly with another year. I just don't see where he plays in the NBA with his skills and size.

 

[moqui]

Donte could score, that will be grants problem.

Where u gonna put him??

The 3?? And lose all that scoring??

Or the 4??? And watch men just abuse the shlit out him for 25 & 15???

I'm with jake, 2nd rounder and guaranteed Dleaguer.

here's the thing about the draft: you have to make a pick, you aren't allowed to pass.

Every player in the draft has flaws, and the deeper you go the more flaws there will be. If you're a GM selecting in the 20s and somehow Jerami Grant is still available, he's gonna look like goddamn filet mignon compared to everything else on the buffet.

 

[Scotch]

IMO grant and Ennis are not ready

When has "ready" had anything to do with it? Another year in college isn't going to make Ennis more athletic, it will just give the scouts another year to pick apart his weaknesses (lateral quickness, first step, etc.). He needs to get stronger, and improve his jump shot, but why not do that while getting paid?

 

[cuseguy]

Dude, take it easy. National titles are "just a possibility" at every school. Kids want to go pro - Tyler and Jerami have an opportunity to go in the first round, and they are taking it. Most kids around the country are making the same decision. This isn't unique to Cuse. The fact that we have so many kids leaving early is a testament to JB's talent evaluation skills, and will only help us land more talented kids in the future.

I tend think we're attracting and recruiting a different kind of prospect lately. But, personally, it's getting really old, especially when some of them aren't ready.

 

[cuseguy]

When has "ready" had anything to do with it? Another year in college isn't going to make Ennis more athletic, it will just give the scouts another year to pick apart his weaknesses (lateral quickness, first step, etc.). He needs to get stronger, and improve his jump shot, but why not do that while getting paid?

Boeheim said Ennis wasn't physically ready.

 

[jvbj01]

As I said in a earlier post, the NCAA can't change NBA rules to keep kids here longer but they can change their own rule: allow players to remain eligible until they actually sign a pro contract, to give them an option of returning if they don't get drafted where they thought they might go and can't catch on with a team or don't like the terms of a contract proposal. That actually empowers the kids in their contract negotiations and it will help the NBA because they won't get a player until he's really ready.

On the other end of things, allow a player who has played professionally to return to school to get his degree and, if he has any eligibility left, he could use it to play for the schools' team for a year, work on his game and try to launch himself for another shot at the NBA. Baseball players who don't make the big leagues on the first try get to use the minor leagues as a trampoline to bounce back up to the majors. If the colleges are the NBA's and NFL's minor leagues, let's allow them to do the same thing in those sports.

The NBA has a slotted contract system. It is predetermined by draft slot, what a player makes. There is a set scale and a player can make from 80% to 120% of the scale. Are you saying that a team could invest a first rounder and lose the player if the player isn't happy with his draft position? That would be penalizing the team and it would never be agreed on. As far as a player becoming professional and coming back to college with eligibility remaining, that would be opening a can of worms that again would never be agreed upon. In fact, that may encourage those players who may be on the bubble of leaving, to leave and enter the draft.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2012/06/28/the-structure-of-nba-rookie-contracts/

 

[Cuse'91]

Feeling a little depressed like everyone else... So, I somehow found myself watching the best "One Shining Moment" of ALL TIME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=g92T3vCzcv0

 

[zendez33]

Good god, please don't be true...Its the season that never ends

 

[orangefan13]

Imo Grants biggest obstacle is becoming a isolation scorer. If he doesn't and returned next year his draft stock could fall even further. Alittle strength or if he really refines his jumpshot, and he becomes one.

That being said can't say its a bad decision for him. IMO a even better decision then Ennis because its potential where Ennis is alittle proven. If he were to come back, he could also become a poor mans cj fair in iso, and his draft stock could fall.

Everyone was gushing over grant preseason. He has shown a rediculous athleticism, and a solid dribble to the hoop and really extended his potential. Not to mention the mono incident took about 15 pounds off him, and could have set his iso game back a year.