It also helps when you have something to sell. Unfortunately Babers was not a very good recruiter and rarely had anything worth announcing.
Of course. But you have to sell whatever you got. Secrecy doesn’t help, especially in our market.
The frustrating thing is I think Dino had the capability to be a great recruiter. He is very charismatic and seems like a great person. I just don't think he had the obsession with recruiting needed.
Weird, I know it's not their forte but an example of those decision makers in the media that have no pulse of their audience
I think it's fair to say that the focus and effort on that part of the program definitely took a downturn after the 2018 season. One thing that really boggled my mind was how reliant his offenses were on having big bodied physical wide receivers, and outside of Alford (who really isn't that besides being tall), we didn't bring in anyone in the Ishmael/Custis/Etta Tawo mold. Really bizarre.
That's a bold statement.
That's a bold statement.
Maybe, but I always wondered how much others really believed what he was saying. From day one, when I was asked to close my eyes, I thought he was a bit of a BS'r. He seems like a solid person and I wish him all the best, but just felt like he was disingenuous at times. Fran appears to speak from the heart.
That pretty much sums it up.
He is a west coast guy who never until very recently invested much in our key areas. Heck Bull D posted that he didn't really do much to help out local Hs coaches. He didn't embrace former players. Very secretive and only hired within a close circle until forced by JW to branch out. His recruiting was all over the map. Now that we are learning the truth which is SU is a school that top players want to attend, I wonder how many east coast HS Dino actually stepped foot in. Again, this from another poster but did he work hard did he put the time and effort in. I don't have a clue but whatever he was doing didn't work well. He does deserve credit for keeping the kids that he did land as once at SU they all seemed to really like him.
I think they want to attend because of the HC and staff. The school and location are not the detriment we thought
I think what we are "learning" is that kids want to play for Fran Brown. Fran Brown just happens to coach at SU. This doesn't seem remotely debatable. We have 25+ years of data under several different staffs and recruiters to prove that recruiting to Syracuse was difficult at best. This problem wasn't unique to Babers.
i agree that is true for say, 50- 75%, of kids nowadays. But there are kids who grow up wanting to play for State U, close to home, and feel the pressure of family and friends to do that. Or play for Notre Dame
Another Dino "flaw" - as I saw it - was that Dino Babers very much wanted to be viewed and respected as a Power 5 Head Football Coach. But not necessarily a "Black" Power 5 Head Football Coach.
Get what you are saying but I do think that Dino “laid into” who he was, a military kid who grew up on bases all over. I’m not sure that even at age 41 that Dino the same life experiences that Fran has and that the kids connect to. From the outside looking in both men very much stayed true to who they are, which is good because kids generally see right thru the BS anyways.
I don't consider it a flaw at all. I'd rather every coach be judged by their performance on and off the field and nothing else. What's amazing is that this will probably be considered controversial.
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