NCSt is going down

[storange]

FCS

 

[anomander]

A lot depends on if their starting quarterback plays or not. If he doesn't we can dial up against the run, if he does then it's anybody's guess. I do think their defense will give us problems though.

 

[anomander]

I'm telling you, do not take this team, or stadium, to lightly. It is a tough place to play. They ring all the way around you and are close to the field. They did not sit down for clemson, but i do not know if that was because of the ranking. I am guessing it is not.

Their new coach Dave Doeren is from NIU and is very crafty, they will misdirect, use lots of motion and he definitely has some tricks up his sleeve. Best thing is they are having some QB problems. That could be a big asset when we send the dogs.

Don't think this is a cake walk. The espn announcers mentioned a few times it was loud during the clemson game.

good think it will be half empty for our game

 

[storange]

What has NC State beat that makes them so great? Think they have the edge at home and will likely win, but they aren't exactly world beaters.

I don't think they're that good. Just have a feeling that we've been exposed and teams are just going to attack our secondary big time also hunt has not shown the ability to move the team against a legit defense yet

 

[weakstraw]

Our guys are fast enough... when they aren't flat footed starring into the backfield or running the wrong direction. Athleticism isn't the issue at this point, it's issues between the ears for some of the guys. If/when the lights come on they could still be pretty good for the most part.

I'm almost ready to say just put the smart safeties out there and not the most athletic. Scary thought.

 

[GoSU96]

A lot depends on if their starting quarterback plays or not. If he doesn't we can dial up against the run, if he does then it's anybody's guess. I do think their defense will give us problems though.

Their starting QB has been in a boot for a month, he hasn't practiced and he has something like three plays or three possession total under his belt. Let him play.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I'm almost ready to say just put the smart safeties out there and not the most athletic. Scary thought.

Do we even know who our smart safeties are? We need whichever one plays the best pass coverage out there alongside Eskridge if nothing else.

 

[Cuseman78]

I don't think they're that good. Just have a feeling that we've been exposed and teams are just going to attack our secondary big time also hunt has not shown the ability to move the team against a legit defense yet

Attack our secondary with what QB? Pete Thomas scares you? I'm sure the kid Montana scared you too. You need to start doing more homework going forward before spouting off a bunch of nonsense. There is no Tahj Boyd or Sammie Watkins in this game.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Their starting QB has been in a boot for a month, he hasn't practiced and he has something like three plays or three possession total under his belt. Let him play.

I'd prefer the guy who has been playing and his 2:7 TD to INT ratio.

 

[anomander]

I'd prefer the guy who has been playing and his 2:7 TD to INT ratio.

i second that

 

[CuseLegacy]

I'm telling you, do not take this team, or stadium, to lightly. It is a tough place to play. They ring all the way around you and are close to the field. They did not sit down for clemson, but i do not know if that was because of the ranking. I am guessing it is not.

Their new coach Dave Doeren is from NIU and is very crafty, they will misdirect, use lots of motion and he definitely has some tricks up his sleeve. Best thing is they are having some QB problems. That could be a big asset when we send the dogs.

Don't think this is a cake walk. The espn announcers mentioned a few times it was loud during the clemson game.

Clemson is a rival game for State that is why it was full. Last week for Wake their fans didn't even travel two hours down the road for the game. I doubt it will be a huge crowd.

 

[GoSU96]

I'd prefer the guy who has been playing and his 2:7 TD to INT ratio.

I don't know if I'd go there. 1:10 ratio in the three BCS conference games. That is horrific.

 

[Trueblue25]

Key to victory:

Run the ball with your NFL caliber back Jerome Smith.

When Smith gets tired, run the ball with future NFL players McFarlane and Morris II.

When within the thirty yard line, hand it off to PTG and get him some space.

We are NOT a passing team. Given decent blocking I believe we are one of the best rushing offenses in the NCAA's.

 

[storange]

Attack our secondary with what QB? Pete Thomas scares you? I'm sure the kid Montana scared you too. You need to start doing more homework going forward before spouting off a bunch of nonsense. There is no Tahj Boyd or Sammie Watkins in this game.

Ok I watched nc state and Clemson and if not for a royal by the officials nc state could have won. I watched a Clemson team roll to three td s against us before I had managed to lengthen lid off my first beer. So I'll wait and see

 

[GoSU96]

I don't think so. We have beat a weak fac school and a weak non bus school. What I saw on Saturday leads me to believe nc state by 17. Mark it down I would love to be wrong but I don't think so

So it's wrong to point out that we were likely to get spanked by a team that is ranked #3 in the country and it's wrong to think we are going to beat a team that just lost to Wake Forest and almost lost at home to Richmond.

Got it.

 

[GoSU96]

Key to victory:

Run the ball with your NFL caliber back Jerome Smith.

When Smith gets tired, run the ball with future NFL players McFarlane and Morris II.

When within the thirty yard line, hand it off to PTG and get him some space.

We are NOT a passing team. Given decent blocking I believe we are one of the best rushing offenses in the NCAA's.

NFL caliber, that's getting a little ahead of things.

He's been a very good college back, let's not get crazy.

 

[storange]

So it's wrong to point out that we were likely to get spanked by a team that is ranked #3 in the country and it's wrong to think we are going to beat a team that just lost to Wake Forest and almost lost at home to Richmond.

Got it.

Who said it's wrong were just having a conversation here. Geese people getting their panties in a bunch

 

[ImperialOrange]

I don't know if I'd go there. 1:10 ratio in the three BCS conference games. That is horrific.

As is 1:4 ratio in 3 non BCS OOC games.

 

[cusefan88]

Syracuse has only beat Tulane and Wagner. Lost to a mediocre PSU team and whopped by NW and Clemson. I'd say NCST is probably in the middle-lower tier of the FBS spectrum. If SU is a better than .500 team this is the game to win.

I love HCSS honesty and intensity but it gets stale if the team doesn't win. I really hope SU wins.

 

[Chip]

SU has played by far the harder schedule. While SU has lost badly twice and has a losing record, NCSt has played one hard game in 5.

They lost to Wake, which is not a good team at all, and one of their wins is by two points over a 2-3 Richmond team.

Three wins , 2-4 La Tech, which is really bad under Skippy, the above mentioned Richmond game, and a bad 2-4 Central Michigan team. La Tech, CMU, and Wake have three of the worst offenses in D-1. To put it into context SU has the second best offense that NCST will have played this year.

Even with the loose pass defense SU is probably the 2nd best they have faced this year. Wake seems to play a lot of bend don't break, but they aren't a play making unit and they don't put up much of a fight in the redzone.

Your lips (or typing fingers) to God's ears. Road games can be tricky, especially in toss up games. We'll find out a lot about ourselves this weekend. On paper, it's a very winnable road game.

 

[Trueblue25]

NFL caliber, that's getting a little ahead of things.

He's been a very good college back, let's not get crazy.

He's been a very good, underused college back.

If he was our feature offensive player for this entire season I see no reason why he couldn't put up NFL caliber college numbers say around... 1300 to 1400 yards and 15 rushing touchdowns. This is all assuming that he leaves after this year.

He's been extremely underused in my opinion this year, so far.

 

[GoSU96]

Your lips (or typing fingers) to God's ears. Road games can be tricky, especially in toss up games. We'll find out a lot about ourselves this weekend. On paper, it's a very winnable road game.

There are quite a few guys on this team that know how to win on the road. That's one thing this program post Robinson has been pretty good at.

 

[OrangePA]

I don't hope he fails. I expect to him to fail based on what we've seen so far. I hope I'm wrong and he pleasantly surprises me. I'm not calling for him to fired, unless he keeps having embarrassing sideline outbursts.

He's here for at least three years. I hope he wins. But, other than the eternal hope of an SU fan I've seen nothing to make me think he can prepare a team to win on the road in Raleigh, or MD or GT.

I find it fun that fans think they have to "support" and "love" their coach to be fans. I'm a Giants fan, never liked Allie Sherman. I'm a Celtics fan, never liked K.C. Jones or Rick Pitino. It's nice when you like the guy coaching your team, but it's not required to still root for the team to win. You are just not surprised when they lose.

Embarrassing sideline outbursts like Woody Hayes, Brian Kelly or Jim Boeheim?

 

[OrangePA]

Look clown, I've expressed my feelings about his sideline antics, but at the end of the day that has little impact on how he manages the program overall, just like Marrone's restrained behavior didn't either.

I'm not sure what you could have seen so far that lead you to expect him to fail. Other than to have mistakenly taken a job at Michigan all the guy has done is done in his career is perform with excellence. He was an integral part of reviving this program, and because of that you expect him to fail?

You've brought up press conferences a couple of times, and what that has to do with his capability of being the HC is beyond me.

Mac was a good BS'er who played the press and glad handed the fans. He was also to a large extent a delegator who recruited and left the details to an excellent staff. He gave good quotes, and he still almost got canned.

P was beyond shy and outside of his world had trouble connecting with people. Guy was an excellent coach, X and O, teacher, gameplanner. Outworked the next guy and for the most part did an excellent job. Basically the opposite of Macphearson. But his press conferences were filled with coach speak and cliche ums and ahs.

Gerg was a disorganized mess in everything. About the only guy that you could say his communications skills reflected how he did the job. He was basically incoherent in any public setting I ever heard him, rambling, disconnected, no organization or through line on what he was trying to say. A bunch of blather that in the end amounted to nothing.

Marrone was a guy who you could tell being in front of a mic was not his natural setting but he worked it and forced himself to do better. I don't think public speaking came naturally to him at all. He was certaintly ly at times but he was also one of the best at giving clear answers to questions to the point of overcommunicating at times. With people he trusted he was very open, he gave Rahme almost total access to the program. He also tried to be a seller of the program to the community and when there wasn't much return on that investment of time, he got out of that business.

Shafer if you ever listen to him is a very good public speaker, he exudes confidence and leadership. He is also really motivated to try to up the support of the program, and he is in full on sell mode much of the time. I think some of the blue collar hardnose friggin this friggin that lock them in the dome is a little over the top, but that's how he is trying to brand the program. He's also the most crisp and clear when he in a press conference setting of all the guys listed here. He doesn't come across as a meathead idiot and I've never seen a deer in the headlights act out of him. It's also obvious that this job means a lot to him and that he wears his heart on his sleeve. Does he need to tone it down, in my opinion sure, but that has nothing to do with his ability to do the job.

If you are really basing your assessment on his ability to do the job based on his sideline demeanor or a press conference, you're an idiot.

Just a very good description of each HC since Mac.

Could not have described each one any better.

Spot on analysis.

Shafer is in fact the most articulate SU Football HC I have seen/heard in my lifetime - and that includes Ben Schwartzwalder.

I believe that his bravao is calculated - a method for selling the program.

And I had no problem with his supposed "outburst" against Clemson - just like I had no problem with the SU defense signaling our ball during the INT review.

Football is an emotional game - it attracts emotional people. Even Marrone realized that emotion was a helpful device midway through the 2012 season.

At this point most reasonable observers had us exactly where we are right now before the season began.

We lost a three-year starting QB, two longtime starting WRs, our best OL, the heart and soul of our defensive secondary and nearly our entire coaching staff.

And we start the season with PSU, NW and Clemson.

You have to give this guy a chance.

 

[cuseinchina]

Just a very good description of each HC since Mac.

Could not have described each one any better.

Spot on analysis.

Shafer is in fact the most articulate SU Football HC I have seen/heard in my lifetime - and that includes Ben Schwartzwalder.

I believe that his bravao is calculated - a method for selling the program.

And I had no problem with his supposed "outburst" against Clemson - just like I had no problem with the SU defense signaling our ball during the INT review.

Football is an emotional game - it attracts emotional people. Even Marrone realized that emotion was a helpful device midway through the 2012 season.

At this point most reasonable observers had us exactly where we are right now before the season began.

We lost a three-year starting QB, two longtime starting WRs, our best OL, the heart and soul of our defensive secondary and nearly our entire coaching staff.

And we start the season with PSU, NW and Clemson.

You have to give this guy a chance.

Love Shafer - wondering on the coordinators...especially wondering if to get his recruiting skills Shafer promised MacD too much autonomy/authority given his experience level. Just seems like during the past 3 years under Marrone, we never looked as bad as we did during the losses this season. Sure some big players are gone, but these guys were all here and in the system - some of that dropoff has to fall on the coaches. This wasn't a total rebuild, there was some continuity - that's why Shafer got the job after all.

Saturday is must win. I think we'll do it. But nothing to date has given me confidence in Shafer's staff other than the positive traction on the recruiting front.