...and went on to WIN the tournament, was the media so bitter as they seem to be about cuse making the final 4? Granted I make sure to avoid anything related to the tourney when Uconn is making a run because i hate them so i wouldn't honestly know how the media reacted but my god some of these talking heads are unbearable. Geesh lets just cancel the rest of the tournament because unworthy syracuse made the final 4. Isn't the tournament all about rooting for the underdog? Aren't Cinderella stories supposed to be so compelling? I guess not when it is Syracuse.
When uconn finished 9th in the big east...
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No because they won the BET and got an automatic berth.
So what. The selection committee determined that Syracuse's resume was worthy of an at large bid. I remember the same year Syracuse went 10-6 in the Big East and got left out that Duke went 8-8 in the ACC and was bounced in the first round of the ACC tournament. They lost 4 of there last 6 games or something like that. They got in the tournament as an 8 seed.
Syracuse is a better team then nearly half the field thanks to the NCAA's version of affirmative action that provides automatic bids for conference tournament champions from irrelevant conferences.
The vitriol against them is over the top nonsense.
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Ahh ncaa socialism. Nice
What else would you call it? If the goal is to crown a National Champion, the selection process should be based on inviting the best 68 teams. This whole notion that mid major teams should be included regardless of merit in order to satisfy the made for TV David Vs. Goliath scenario makes little sense to me. Abolish the automatic bids and hand out 68 at large bids. Invite those smaller conference teams based on merit.
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Im cool w it man. Go nuts.
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The assumption here is that the sustained media outrage by some is the result of our resume not being tournament worthy. There were those who felt that way originally, but my gut says that for those where this was their only beef, it subsided by the end of the Gonzaga game and truly disappeared or became a "joking matter" after the UVa game - some examples of this group might be Greenburg, Kornheiser, Wilbon, etc. - they might be faking it as well, since JB is hot right now in terms of interviews - but my gut says no. For whatever criteria they use they truly felt our resume wasn't worthy and the selection committee disagreed with that point of view - resoundingly so as it turns out.
But those that continue to sustain their outrage now even after our making the Final Four, I truly believe it was never about the worthiness of our resume. It was the perceived "dirtiness" of our program and having us rise from the ashes so quickly after the sanctions came down upon us is only fueling their anger and stubbornness. This is likely how they think of sanctions after doing so well in the tourney:
NCAA vacates 101 victories by JB - no problem, he'll make up most of that before he "retires" at the end of the 2017-18 season. (Yes, I know we suspect he will truly retire after next season, but the haters aren't suspecting this.).
Scholarship reduction - no problem , he only plays 6-7.5 anyway.
Publicly shamed - no problem now, he's made the Elite 8 in 3 of the last 5 and now the Final Four in 2 of the last 5 and they fear that is all future recruits will remember.
Suspended for 9 games - no problem, the committee must have used that as part of their consideration in getting us in the tourney (even though the committee chair said that was not the case)
University has to pay back $$$ to the NCAA fund - no problem, the university has a very good endowment
For some of the haters nothing will ever satisfied them except for either a death penalty for our programs or at the very least JB's head on a spike.
Cheers,
Neil
But those that continue to sustain their outrage now even after our making the Final Four, I truly believe it was never about the worthiness of our resume. It was the perceived "dirtiness" of our program and having us rise from the ashes so quickly after the sanctions came down upon us is only fueling their anger and stubbornness. This is likely how they think of sanctions after doing so well in the tourney:
NCAA vacates 101 victories by JB - no problem, he'll make up most of that before he "retires" at the end of the 2017-18 season. (Yes, I know we suspect he will truly retire after next season, but the haters aren't suspecting this.).
Scholarship reduction - no problem , he only plays 6-7.5 anyway.
Publicly shamed - no problem now, he's made the Elite 8 in 3 of the last 5 and now the Final Four in 2 of the last 5 and they fear that is all future recruits will remember.
Suspended for 9 games - no problem, the committee must have used that as part of their consideration in getting us in the tourney (even though the committee chair said that was not the case)
University has to pay back $$$ to the NCAA fund - no problem, the university has a very good endowment
For some of the haters nothing will ever satisfied them except for either a death penalty for our programs or at the very least JB's head on a spike.
Cheers,
Neil
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I know that we're all Syracuse fans here and most all of us believe that the sanctions against us were way over the top, but those on the outside (other team's fans and many journalists) most likely have never really looked at what the transgressions were and how they stacked up against the sanctions. No analysis of their fairness.
All they know is we did something bad and we were punished.
Most of us feel the same way about other programs that the NCAA has investigated and punished. We don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling about them...Penn State...what's in store for North Carolina...and others.
With the press that we've gotten for the past 5-6 years (B Fine +) it's naive to think that other program's fans, or equally uninformed journalists, would look at us as the white hats.
And JB has never been universally loved.
It's unfortunate.
All they know is we did something bad and we were punished.
Most of us feel the same way about other programs that the NCAA has investigated and punished. We don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling about them...Penn State...what's in store for North Carolina...and others.
With the press that we've gotten for the past 5-6 years (B Fine +) it's naive to think that other program's fans, or equally uninformed journalists, would look at us as the white hats.
And JB has never been universally loved.
It's unfortunate.
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