1918 Helms National Championship

[Dave85]

I love that quote from "Dead Poets Society" and was thinking the same thing when I saw this picture. "These boys are feeding daffodils now."

"You can hear them talking to you."

Here's the exact quote, "But if you listen real close, you can hear them whisper their legacy to you"

 

[MSOrange]

Racially looks like a Duke team. Just saying.

It does but it was only 18 years later when Wilmeth Sidat-Singh joined the team, a rarity in those times.

 

[Dave85]

They didn't even have radio until 1922.

The Internet was done with smoke signals.

 

[Dave85]

I heard Nike gave them good money to wear those.

It was practically an NCAA violation because the players refused at first.

 

[Geode]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917–18_Syracuse_Orangemen_basketball_team

What the heck was Nike thinking with these? Belts were so 1913.

 

[Dave85]

"The NCAA was founded in 1906 to protect young people from the dangerous and exploitive athletics practices of the time"

The first investigation of Syracuse University began in 1907.

 

[Dave85]

Did they provide the Hair Gel too?

That wasn't hair gel it was whale oil.

 

[Dave85]

The History of the Free Throw

• Author:
  By Ryan Wood
• Date:
  Nov 30, 2010

In 1891, while preparing to teach a gym class at the YMCA in Springfield, Mass., James Naismith came up with a game that was non-violent and a welcome distraction for kids stuck inside during the frigid New England winters. Naismith wrote up 13 rules for his game, and called it basket ball.

The free throw was not mentioned among the original 13 rules. In fact, the closest thing was rule No. 7, which stated "If either side makes consecutive fouls it shall count a goal for the opponents."

After a little bit of tweaking, the free throw as we know it today was put into place--more than 115 years ago.

According to Naismith's book, "Basketball: Its Origin and Development," the original penalty for committing a foul was tweaked to "if three fouls were committed by one team without the other team having committed a foul, the team that was fouled should receive one point."

Of course, considering all baskets were one point back then, it proved to be a serious offense to foul a player. Soon after, Naismith recognized that it was too severe of a penalty, and adjusted it so that all field goals were three points, and all fouls were an automatic one point.

Further evolving it, Naismith decided that victims of a foul should instead be rewarded with a 20-foot shot, the first version of the free throw. If that 20-foot shot was made, it counted as a field goal.

The last major change took place in 1895, when the free-throw line was moved up to 15 feet. In 1896, point totals were changed to two points for a regular field goal and one point for a free throw.

For 29 years, those rules stood. But there was a quirk. Back then, a team could choose who they wanted to shoot the free throws. Teams would often pick a good shooter and designate him as the team's sole free-throw shooter. According to Naismith's book, "This player soon became so expert that he could throw the ball into the basket a large percentage of the time; this meant that a foul was practically as good as a goal."

Not wanting that, the rules changed again in 1924. From that point forward, players had to shoot their own free throws if they were fouled.

This was the last major change made to free-throw shooting. While college basketball was going strong at that point, the free throw was essentially finalized 22 years before the NBA would play its first game.

Of course, minor tweaks have continued to basketball's rule book, and some have impacted the free throw. Among the NCAA rules that have been polished over the years:

• Between 1939 and 1952, teams could decline shooting the free throws and instead elect to inbound the ball at half court.
• In 1990, the NCAA started allowing three free throws to be awarded if a player is fouled during a 3-point shot.
• The one-and-one free throw is introduced in 1954, which in certain situations allowed for a second free throw to be shot only if the first one is converted.

At first, the free throw was controversial. Why, some wondered, should a game potentially be won or lost on a shot that doesn't allow for any defense to be played?

Naismith had the answer in his book, and it's a philosophy that still is supported today.

"I have often overheard some spectators express the opinion that a game was won by free throws. I have always taken the attitude that the game was lost by fouls." Naismith wrote. "Personally, I believe that any tendency toward lessening the penalty of a foul would be a serious mistake."

 

[cliftonparksufan]

"The NCAA was founded in 1906 to protect young people from the dangerous and exploitive athletics practices of the time"

The first investigation of Syracuse University began in 1907.

Rumor has it the local horseless carriage dealer gave out Xmas cards with a nickel in it.

 

[KaiserUEO]

"The NCAA was founded in 1906 to protect young people from the dangerous and exploitive athletics practices of the time"

The first investigation of Syracuse University began in 1907.

and that all inclusive investigation should wrap up in march of 2017, the week before selection sunday.

 

[br801]

Rumor has it the local horseless carriage dealer gave out Xmas cards with a nickel in it.

There was also talk of a Midwestern school providing improper benefits to recruits.

 

[EnnisEnvy]

That wasn't hair gel it was whale oil.

Ahem, it's "product", not "gel" or "oil".

 

[SWC75]

The History of the Free Throw

• Author:
  By Ryan Wood
• Date:
  Nov 30, 2010

In 1891, while preparing to teach a gym class at the YMCA in Springfield, Mass., James Naismith came up with a game that was non-violent and a welcome distraction for kids stuck inside during the frigid New England winters. Naismith wrote up 13 rules for his game, and called it basket ball.

The free throw was not mentioned among the original 13 rules. In fact, the closest thing was rule No. 7, which stated "If either side makes consecutive fouls it shall count a goal for the opponents."

After a little bit of tweaking, the free throw as we know it today was put into place--more than 115 years ago.

According to Naismith's book, "Basketball: Its Origin and Development," the original penalty for committing a foul was tweaked to "if three fouls were committed by one team without the other team having committed a foul, the team that was fouled should receive one point."

Of course, considering all baskets were one point back then, it proved to be a serious offense to foul a player. Soon after, Naismith recognized that it was too severe of a penalty, and adjusted it so that all field goals were three points, and all fouls were an automatic one point.

Further evolving it, Naismith decided that victims of a foul should instead be rewarded with a 20-foot shot, the first version of the free throw. If that 20-foot shot was made, it counted as a field goal.

The last major change took place in 1895, when the free-throw line was moved up to 15 feet. In 1896, point totals were changed to two points for a regular field goal and one point for a free throw.

For 29 years, those rules stood. But there was a quirk. Back then, a team could choose who they wanted to shoot the free throws. Teams would often pick a good shooter and designate him as the team's sole free-throw shooter. According to Naismith's book, "This player soon became so expert that he could throw the ball into the basket a large percentage of the time; this meant that a foul was practically as good as a goal."

Not wanting that, the rules changed again in 1924. From that point forward, players had to shoot their own free throws if they were fouled.

This was the last major change made to free-throw shooting. While college basketball was going strong at that point, the free throw was essentially finalized 22 years before the NBA would play its first game.

Of course, minor tweaks have continued to basketball's rule book, and some have impacted the free throw. Among the NCAA rules that have been polished over the years:

• Between 1939 and 1952, teams could decline shooting the free throws and instead elect to inbound the ball at half court.
• In 1990, the NCAA started allowing three free throws to be awarded if a player is fouled during a 3-point shot.
• The one-and-one free throw is introduced in 1954, which in certain situations allowed for a second free throw to be shot only if the first one is converted.

At first, the free throw was controversial. Why, some wondered, should a game potentially be won or lost on a shot that doesn't allow for any defense to be played?

Naismith had the answer in his book, and it's a philosophy that still is supported today.

"I have often overheard some spectators express the opinion that a game was won by free throws. I have always taken the attitude that the game was lost by fouls." Naismith wrote. "Personally, I believe that any tendency toward lessening the penalty of a foul would be a serious mistake."

For proper attributon, here's the link: http://www.usab.com/youth/news/2010/11/the-history-of-the-free-throw.aspx

 

[RandygoCuse]

The History of the Free Throw

• Author:
  By Ryan Wood
• Date:
  Nov 30, 2010

• Between 1939 and 1952, teams could decline shooting the free throws and instead elect to inbound the ball at half court.
• In 1990, the NCAA started allowing three free throws to be awarded if a player is fouled during a 3-point shot.
• The one-and-one free throw is introduced in 1954, which in certain situations allowed for a second free throw to be shot only if the first one is converted.

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I'm all for being able to decline free throws.

 

[Dave85]

I'm all for being able to decline free throws.

Yeah, I thought that one was cool also!

 

[Dave85]

There was also talk of a Midwestern school providing improper benefits to recruits.
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Nice looking tri-delts!

 

[Dave85]

and that all inclusive investigation should wrap up in march of 2017, the week before selection sunday.

They are almost complete in interviewing every Syracuse player who still is a alive.

 

[Dave85]

Rumor has it the local horseless carriage dealer gave out Xmas cards with a nickel in it.

Some of the players received money helping build the YMCA.

 

[Dave85]

It does but it was only 18 years later when Wilmeth Sidat-Singh joined the team, a rarity in those times.

Syracuse has always been proudly ahead of on all those curves!

 

[KaiserUEO]

They are almost complete in interviewing every Syracuse player who still is a alive.

they've found a discrepancy in JBs high school transcript.

every school win from 1962 on...is about to be vacated.

 

[Dave85]

they've found a discrepancy in JBs high school transcript.

every school win from 1962 on...is about to be vacated.

And the time he caught fish out of Onondaga without a license! It's a question of his character at this point.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

they've found a discrepancy in JBs high school transcript.

every school win from 1962 on...is about to be vacated.

What the three credits that he received for his mortuary science internship wasn't legit?

 

[SWC75]

They are almost complete in interviewing every Syracuse player who still is a alive.

That would actually be a cool project for the university to do- an audio history of SU athletics from the guys who played for the school.

 

[Eric15]

This might be the wittiest thread in board history. I LOLed like 15 times.

 

[MGP]

God suspended 900 years for lack of institutional control...