we have dropped steadily for several years. at one time we were in the 40's somewhere----something is going terribly wrong. anyone have an explanation or insight?You say facts...I say b.s. Each of us is entitled to look at it as we choose. The fallout is apparent...55 to 62. All of these things devalue the degree that I personally paid for.
If by "look at is as we choose" you mean "ignore reality and make stuff up out of my *ss", then sure.You say facts...I say b.s. Each of us is entitled to look at it as we choose. The fallout is apparent...55 to 62. All of these things devalue the degree that I personally paid for.
maybe someone can help me to understand better, because i just don't understand the obsession with college rankings, especially for people that are done with college already. i'm wondering if maybe it is generational, or maybe because i went to a very small, rural public high school an barely anyone went to college anyway, but when we were college searching in the early 90's i just remember the us news rankings being like, something in a magazine that was interesting to look at but no one really cared about, aside from the hard facts like average SAT scores and whatnot. people picked colleges based on what degree they wanted, where it was, and how much it was.SU is now down to 62! What in the world is the hobbit doing to the school! First drop out of the AAU with some b.s. excuse...now this. UGH!
maybe someone can help me to understand better, because i just don't understand the obsession with college rankings, especially for people that are done with college already. i'm wondering if maybe it is generational, or maybe because i went to a very small, rural public high school an barely anyone went to college anyway, but when we were college searching in the early 90's i just remember the us news rankings being like, something in a magazine that was interesting to look at but no one really cared about, aside from the hard facts like average SAT scores and whatnot. people picked colleges based on what degree they wanted, where it was, and how much it was.
maybe someone can help me to understand better, because i just don't understand the obsession with college rankings, especially for people that are done with college already. i'm wondering if maybe it is generational, or maybe because i went to a very small, rural public high school an barely anyone went to college anyway, but when we were college searching in the early 90's i just remember the us news rankings being like, something in a magazine that was interesting to look at but no one really cared about, aside from the hard facts like average SAT scores and whatnot. people picked colleges based on what degree they wanted, where it was, and how much it was.
If by "look at is as we choose" you mean "ignore reality and make stuff up out of my *ss", then sure.
Your name calling and selective recollection of facts is undermining your intent.
Perhaps All4SU has it right and the editors at US News & World Report have been reading your online prose in preparation for their latest rankings.
Uh oh! If you are a current SU student, it appears the rankings dropped after you were admitted...we have found the culprit!If the rankings go up after I graduate, I will accept full responsibility. If they go down, I can tell you without hesitation that it was not my fault.
Nah, graduated a long time ago . . .Uh oh! If you are a current SU student, it appears the rankings dropped after you were admitted...we have found the culprit!
As for why people care about these rankings...perception is reality. People who have posted on this very board have denigrated other Big East programs as third tier and not worthy of opening their mouths about academics. If you are happy with the falling perception of academics at SU that's fine. I'm not. Agree to disagree on this one.
LET'S GO ORANGE!
ok that's fine. i'm cool either way, i didn't go to su. i thought the rankings was a way for the academia types to piss on each other. now i realize it's a way for alums to piss on each other too. as if sports, making money, etc, aren't enough. just one more thing, i get it.In the spirit of online harmony I will concede the foul on calling Cantor the hobbit. But I would like to ask you what is it that I made up? I did not reference which of the reasons I feel are b.s. so I do not know what I pull out of my *ss. Am I pulling it out of my *ss to say that they accept 60% of their applicants in deference to the PC gods. Did they not say that they focus on soft sciences who benefits are not physically quantifiable? Maybe you are a part of SU's administration and I stepped on your toes...if so I apologize. This bit of reactionary attacking is why I have always been a lurker so no USNWR did not glean anything about SU from me.
As for why people care about these rankings...perception is reality. People who have posted on this very board have denigrated other Big East programs as third tier and not worthy of opening their mouths about academics. If you are happy with the falling perception of academics at SU that's fine. I'm not. Agree to disagree on this one.
LET'S GO ORANGE!
In the spirit of online harmony I will concede the foul on calling Cantor the hobbit. But I would like to ask you what is it that I made up?
First drop out of the AAU with some b.s. excuse.
A deceptive aspect of these rankings is so much depends on the major/program. Getting an Engineering degree from Lehigh means so much more than say, Williams (#1 Liberal Arts College). I would rather have a music degree from Berklee than Harvard.SU is now down to 62! What in the world is the hobbit doing to the school! First drop out of the AAU with some b.s. excuse...now this. UGH!
Perhaps they have been reading these boards and determined that some of us are not as bright as our degrees might suggest.
A deceptive aspect of these rankings is so much depends on the major/program. Getting an Engineering degree from Lehigh means so much more than say, Williams (#1 Liberal Arts College). I would rather have a music degree from Berklee than Harvard.
If you are going into engineering then yes it does. A degree from Williams opens up a lot of doors. I would imagine a physics degree from Williams would also open so doors in the engineering world.
What one truly pays for is access to the alumni network. Obviously Syracuse has a bast alumni network in broadcasting, Lehigh in engineering, etc.
Btw, Hamilton is now 17.