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2021 USMNT Thread

No, I was fine with Yedlin's performance.

I am actually more focused on Dest.

Dest is not on the field for his defense but for his offensive and, specifically, his 1 v 1 skills. Can we agree on that?
Absolutely.
If not, we can further debate his role.

However, if we do agree on that, then let's discuss what defines success for Dest and what is required for him to be successful.

I believe that Dest's ability to influence a game relies on two things:

1. Getting him as many touches as possible in the final third
2. Having both really good spacing and good interplay with the left winger.

I saw neither of those things happen on Thursday.

Well, in Dest's defense, moving him from side to side, experimenting every game, isn't helping him develop chemistry with the winger on either side.

Otherwise, I agree. He's in there to take people on, to rampage down the flank.

So, why is that?

As others have mentioned, our ability to possess the ball, other than for a short time at the beginning of the game and then against towards the tail end of the game, was non-existent on Thursday. Passing triangles and quick little 1-2s either didn't happen or were consistently off-target.
Yes, against El Salvador, their passing from the midfield to the final third was just not there, and they all took on people one-on-one, often dribbling into dead ends. They needed a guy to be looking for those one-two's, and Reyna is the key to that.

And there was way too much of guys picking the ball up in the middle third and trying to dribble into the final third (Adams, McKennie, Reyna, Aaronson, Dest..) they were all guilty of it.
Yes,
That is the absolute worst way to try to get into the final third as, when you do that, you are dribbling directly into pressure and the most likely result is a turnover in a really bad spot. We really only have one guy who can pick the ball up in the middle third and go at the defense and that is Pulisic.

I kind of disagree here. I think they showed poor judgment in this last game, but we've seen a bunch of these guys dribble past people, run into spaces and use the channels, play smart one-two's to progress the ball up the sidelines against a press. We've seen the long diagonal balls out of the back, which have largely been accurate.

Yesterday was growing pains. For the fact that so many of these guys are playing on elite teams, none of them are really "The Man" who a team leans on to win matches. None of these guys have matured to that level yet. This is part of the process.

But there are a lot of guys on this team who can play the way you (and we) want them to play. We saw it already earlier this summer. Just not in such hostile atmospheres - both of those cup wins were on US soil.

In order to get Dest into the final third, the team needs to possess the ball long enough to actually allow Dest to get into the final third. That rarely happened.

And, the few times that Dest did get into the final third, the spacing between him and Reyna was poor. They were inevitably on top of each other. This is another reason why I thought we missed Pulisic a lot. Pulisic loves to pick up the ball and then run at the middle of the defense which, if we had had better possession, would have left Dest 1 v 1 with the left back and given Dest a chance to do what he does best - run at a guy in a 1 v 1 situation. Reyna tended to stay wide with Dest leaving a 2 v 2 where it was easy to support the defender marking Dest.

So, yes, Dest had a bad game but a lot of that had more to do with his teammates not being able to put him into a position where he could leverage his strengths, rather than anything in particular that Dest did (other than defending poorly which we already know is an issue).

As a result, Dest really had little chance to influence the game. Combine that with his poor defending and it is understandable why he was subbed off.

I think Dest is a wingback, not a fullback, because he doesn't defend well enough. He is kind of like a Calum Hudson-Odoi - the final product should be better, he needs to be more consistent, but sometimes produces spectacular plays or bits of skill.

You always hope you can channel that guy into being productive for the team. For me, Dest is too good to give up on at such a young age. But playing 4 at the back is something that he's just not ready to do in CONCACAF.

Playing in CONCACAF is like playing in some central European league where half the refs are crooked, and people hurl insults and debris at players every game.
 
Actually we have the perfect player for the number six in Gio Reyna. He plays centrally for one of the best club teams in the world. I think Berhalter wants Reyna closer to the goal… I think moving Reyna to the six would be the most impactful move we could make right now, outside of getting his dad to come out of retirement and play that spot.

But that's not his role at all?

He generally plays much more advanced and shades left for BD.
 
But that's not his role at all?

He generally plays much more advanced and shades left for BD.

Musah gave us some good minutes as that box to box guy last year in friendlies. He needs to remain in the mix. He's a good young player.
 
Musah gave us some good minutes as that box to box guy last year in friendlies. He needs to remain in the mix. He's a good young player.
He might deserve another shot. I think he played there for his whole youth career before getting moved forward and left for the senior teams. Busio could be destined for a leap forward, but don’t think he’s ready for it right now.
 
He might deserve another shot. I think he played there for his whole youth career before getting moved forward and left for the senior teams. Busio could be destined for a leap forward, but don’t think he’s ready for it right now.

I think Busio is better a bit deeper, like in a Jorginho role, circulating possession and connecting the defense with the midfield.
 
good thing they didnt expect to play Steffen now that he is out with Covid.

feels like all these teams should be practicing and the everything else on zoom and go take showers at home to make it thru a season.
 
gonna take 2 goals you would think to win this thing. lets finish a few plays for once. SU ran for 3 TDs in a game so anything is possible
 

McKennie has no use for Berhalter it appears.
Damn Weston… there are reports out of Juve that he’s not a rule follower as well.

sucks about Reyna
 
No VAR is good I thought Dest might have hand balled that shot off the Davies cross.

We need some offense please.
 
That play where Canada got a shot on goal off a goal kick is exactly why Dest can’t play fullback for this team.
 
Also this team has zero idea how it’s going to score a goal. Sorry berhalter… you need to go if this is the best you can do.
Our play is terrible. We just hoping to get a set piece and just win 1-0.
Our run of play is brutal.
 
Does the US have any other elite scorers besides Pulisic? Feels like we have a solid team but are missing a Dempsey or someone to play off Pulisic.
 
Our play is terrible. We just hoping to get a set piece and just win 1-0.
Our run of play is brutal.
It’s amazing… we are clearly more talented but zero ideas how to score. The good news is our d is so good l, I don’t see anyone outside Mexico really threatening us consistently. Has anyone qualified by going 0-0 every game?
 
Our play is terrible. We just hoping to get a set piece and just win 1-0.
Our run of play is brutal.
Maybe something from an unsettled play, like a counter. Canada is packing tight on their end of the field, and organized.
 
Does the US have any other elite scorers besides Pulisic? Feels like we have a solid team but are missing a Dempsey or someone to play off Pulisic.
The answer would seem to be a resounding no. Reyna is good, but out of position. I’m think kdlf is pretty good but didn’t get the start… maybe Pepe?

I haven’t heard prefok’s name called yet and he’s our nine
 
The answer would seem to be a resounding no. Reyna is good, but out of position. I’m think kdlf is pretty good but didn’t get the start… maybe Pepe?

I haven’t heard prefok’s name called yet and he’s our nine
Tim Weah is a striker I like.
He just can’t stay healthy when national team matches happen.

I would love Weah to be part of the World Cup team.
 
The answer would seem to be a resounding no. Reyna is good, but out of position. I’m think kdlf is pretty good but didn’t get the start… maybe Pepe?

I haven’t heard prefok’s name called yet and he’s our nine
Prefok plays for Young Boys.
So he will get Champions League matches.

He is an up and coming forward.
 
Prefok plays for Young Boys.
So he will get Champions League matches.

He is an up and coming forward.

If one between him or Darryl Dike can just get it together, then we will have that "beast" forward that you sometimes need in competition. Sargent hasn't impressed me as anything more than a capable backup, like a Jordan Morris. Sargent isn't even as good as Gyasi Zardes.

Hoppe was a ball of fire in the Nations League tournament, but he just seemed like an energy guy, with only a modest amount of technique and traditional striker skills.
 
Our offense is offensively embarrassing. These dudes have talent, but the movement is so poor there is nothing to create. Why in gods name isn’t Robinson overlapping with Pulisic every single time… it’s wide open and that’s how he plays in England.
 

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