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[SDjohn]

Cox has been first team all Patriot League defense the past two years.

His numbers on evanmiya.com are good. Not as good as some of the PGs we have discussed but good.

36.5% from the 3 point circle.

I wasn’t replying to a specific player or post, just in general for Gerry to target two way players.

 

[Orangezoo]

Cox has been first team all Patriot League defense the past two years.

His numbers on evanmiya.com are good. Not as good as some of the PGs we have discussed but good.

36.5% from the 3 point circle.

Do we think he’s better than Braeden who sat out last year to go to Gonzaga? Braeden averaged 17 mpg 5.6 ppg and 3.1 apg and often had limited minutes against better opponents. As an example of a Gate PG stepping up in competition definitely a let down.

Nellie Cummings a couple years before that did do pretty well for Pitt - nothing special but was productive for a team that made the tourney.

 

[Melancer46]

As long as Gerry targets two way players (not like Betsey who can shoot but does NOTHING ELSE), I’ll be happy. Need some shooters for sure, but not shooters who can’t defend.

FWIW, Betsey was considered a 3nD guy before he got here lol

 

[Cusefan0307]

FWIW, Betsey was considered a 3nD guy before he got here lol

All 3 no D.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Represented by Michael Carter-Williams you say?

 

[Orangezoo]

Represented by Michael Carter-Williams you say?

MCW you say??? Hmmmm. On that note - one of their worst defenders and only averaged 1.7 apg to 1 TO at 6-1

 

[sutomcat]

Do we think he’s better than Braeden who sat out last year to go to Gonzaga? Braeden averaged 17 mpg 5.6 ppg and 3.1 apg and often had limited minutes against better opponents. As an example of a Gate PG stepping up in competition definitely a let down.

Nellie Cummings a couple years before that did do pretty well for Pitt - nothing special but was productive for a team that made the tourney.

Evan Miya does not. I have included performance metrics for some of the PGs we may (or may not) be looking at. Also included percentage from the 3 point circle because a couple people are placing extreme value on that stat.

Player	OBPR	DBPR	BPR	3 PT %
Braeden Smith	3.42	1.88	5.30	33.3 (17-51)
Jaden Cox	2.64	1.22	3.86	36.6 (19-52)
Chance Westry	4.61	1.25	5.86	24.1 (21-87)
Leroy Bleden Jr	3.70	0.74	4.44	40.7 (77-189)
Dedan Thomas Jr	5.23	0.84	6.07	30.1 (13-43)
Rowan Brumbaugh	3.12	0.33	3.44	37.3 (57-153)
Nait George	3.37	1.77	5.14	29.3 (36-123)

People have strong opinions on various players. Thought introducing objective ratings might be helpful.

These numbers are from the season just ending. Smith’s BPR at Colgate 2 season’s ago was 3.98.

 

[orangefog]

Evan Miya does not. I have included his performance metrics for some of the PGs we may (or may not) be looking at. Also included percentage from the 3 point circle because a couple people are placing extreme value on that stat.

Player	OBPR	DBPR	BPR	3 PT %
Braeden Smith	3.42	1.88	5.30	33.3 (17-51)
Jaden Cox	2.64	1.22	3.86	36.6 (19-52)
Chance Westry	4.61	1.25	5.86	24.1 (21-87)
Leroy Bleden Jr	3.70	0.74	4.44	40.7 (77-189)

People have strong opinions on various players. Thought introducing objective ratings might be helpful.

These numbers are from the season just ending.

There's no room for objectivity on a fan message board.

 

[Orangezoo]

Evan Miya does not. I have included his performance metrics for some of the PGs we may (or may not) be looking at. Also included percentage from the 3 point circle because a couple people are placing extreme value on that stat.

Player	OBPR	DBPR	BPR	3 PT %
Braeden Smith	3.42	1.88	5.30	33.3 (17-51)
Jaden Cox	2.64	1.22	3.86	36.6 (19-52)
Chance Westry	4.61	1.25	5.86	24.1 (21-87)
Leroy Bleden Jr	3.70	0.74	4.44	40.7 (77-189)

People have strong opinions on various players. Thought introducing objective ratings might be helpful.

These numbers are from the season just ending.

Good stuff!

 

[ar inj]

Evan Miya does not. I have included performance metrics for some of the PGs we may (or may not) be looking at. Also included percentage from the 3 point circle because a couple people are placing extreme value on that stat.

Player	OBPR	DBPR	BPR	3 PT %
Braeden Smith	3.42	1.88	5.30	33.3 (17-51)
Jaden Cox	2.64	1.22	3.86	36.6 (19-52)
Chance Westry	4.61	1.25	5.86	24.1 (21-87)
Leroy Bleden Jr	3.70	0.74	4.44	40.7 (77-189)
Dedan Thomas Jr	5.23	0.84	6.07	30.1 (13-43)
Rowan Brumbaugh	3.12	0.33	3.44	37.3 (57-153)
Nait George	3.37	1.77	5.14	29.3 (36-123)

People have strong opinions on various players. Thought introducing objective ratings might be helpful.

These numbers are from the season just ending. Smith’s BPR at Colgate 2 season’s ago was 3.98.

What would George look like if he had a 2-guard who could shoot the 3 and a coach that insisted he stop some of the chucking he did this year?

 

[cusefan88]

What would George look like if he had a 2-guard who could shoot the 3 and a coach that insisted he stop some of the chucking he did this year?

We just might find out under Gmac.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

MCW you say??? Hmmmm. On that note - one of their worst defenders and only averaged 1.7 apg to 1 TO at 6-1

 

[sutomcat]

What would George look like if he had a 2-guard who could shoot the 3 and a coach that insisted he stop some of the chucking he did this year?

I think the unforced turnovers are going to cause GMac to go in a different direction at PG. if you take Gerry at his word, there is no way George remains on the roster.

Some of the 3s he missed were due to a broken offense where players stood around and looked at each other. But he looked to shoot early in the clock way too often, especially during the second half of the season. I can’t believe Adrian wanted him doing this but the players apparently did what they wanted most of the season.

I was shocked how good Nait’s defensive number was on Evan’s site. He got beat one on one all the time.

We will what happens soon.

 

[Orangezoo]

Absolutely awful defender. -1.89 dbpm on Evan Miya.

 

[grepal]

Chance’s chance was a few chances ago. He had his chance. I don’t think we should take another chance on Chance. Too much of a chance, imo.

How many years has he been in college? Is he Dr. Chance Westry yet?

 

[Orangezoo]

Lot of portal tweets from mid major guys planning to portal with high scoring averages that have weak efficiency and defensive numbers per Evan Miya I’m noticing.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Wants 2mm minimum

So, he’s into metric. Kinky.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

We have more than that. The complaints about money need to stop.

They won’t until the players are bought and paid for. Talk is cheap. A tournament roster isn’t.

 

[Cuse99&01]

MCW you say??? Hmmmm. On that note - one of their worst defenders and only averaged 1.7 apg to 1 TO at 6-1

You also have to consider the type of offense Georgia ran when interpreting his scoring numbers. Players were allowed to just run and gun. He led the team in shot attempts and in the games I watched he took several bad shots. Same issue he had at Cal the year prior. If people weren't happy with George's shot selection this season, they wouldn't be happy with Wilkinson next year.

 

[Orangezoo]

You also have to consider the type of offense Georgia ran when interpreting his scoring numbers. Players were allowed to just run and gun. He led the team in shot attempts and in the games I watched he took several bad shots. Same issue he had at Cal the year prior. If people weren't happy with George's shot selection this season, they wouldn't be happy with Wilkinson next year.

Yeah plus the defensive numbers -
Hard pass

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Represented by Michael Carter-Williams you say?

Does he come with his own bathrobe?

 

[orangefog]

Represented by Michael Carter-Williams you say?

The boxer?

 

[Orangezoo]

Evan Miya does not. I have included performance metrics for some of the PGs we may (or may not) be looking at. Also included percentage from the 3 point circle because a couple people are placing extreme value on that stat.

Player	OBPR	DBPR	BPR	3 PT %
Braeden Smith	3.42	1.88	5.30	33.3 (17-51)
Jaden Cox	2.64	1.22	3.86	36.6 (19-52)
Chance Westry	4.61	1.25	5.86	24.1 (21-87)
Leroy Bleden Jr	3.70	0.74	4.44	40.7 (77-189)
Dedan Thomas Jr	5.23	0.84	6.07	30.1 (13-43)
Rowan Brumbaugh	3.12	0.33	3.44	37.3 (57-153)
Nait George	3.37	1.77	5.14	29.3 (36-123)

People have strong opinions on various players. Thought introducing objective ratings might be helpful.

These numbers are from the season just ending. Smith’s BPR at Colgate 2 season’s ago was 3.98.

I’d love to know what the driver is pushing Naits BPR up given all the turnover issues. There is something in that calculation that’s fools gold here. The only thing I could guess is the assist numbers and the fact he had some good offensive games in losses.

His inability to control the tempo paired with the reckless turnovers to me make him an inefficient player at the PG spot.