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Sorry, I was more talking about the general mood before your post. You snuck yours in as I was writing.It’s not that simple. Wings are cheaper than centers.
Sorry, I was more talking about the general mood before your post. You snuck yours in as I was writing.It’s not that simple. Wings are cheaper than centers.
In fairness, he followed up saying it was an assumptionMaybe say it’s an assumption then? You’re positioning message board chatter (I’m assuming Trilly) as inside info on every player.
We don’t have the money to pay a center that much.We’re looking for bargains.No, the delay is because we have to pay 4-5 times the amount for a center this year than we paid for Kyle because of inflation at that position.
Yeah you’re wrong. There’s two things at play. We have significantly more money and even centers who averaged single digits in points per game are looking for multiple millions of dollars.We don’t have the money to pay a center that much.We’re looking for bargains.
I’m not wrong. We don’t have the money to pay centers due to the inflation at that position. If we had the money, we’d be paying a center $3 million or so. It’s why we couldn’t compete for the top centers. This isn’t difficult. Please don’t make it so.Yeah you’re wrong. There’s two things at play. We have significantly more money and even centers who averaged single digits in points per game are looking for multiple millions of dollars.
You said we didn’t have more money. We do. Centers also want more this year. I’m not making anything difficult. It’s not hard to understand.I’m not wrong. We don’t have the money to pay centers due to the inflation at that position. If we had the money, we’d be paying a center $3 million or so. It’s why we couldn’t compete for the top centers. This isn’t difficult. Please don’t make it so.
I’m not wrong. We don’t have the money to pay centers due to the inflation at that position. If we had the money, we’d be paying a center $3 million or so. It’s why we couldn’t compete for the top centers. This isn’t difficult. Please don’t make it so.
Wasn’t there a poster that said he heard Wildhack say a center that played 10 mins a game last year wanted 5 mil.I think it's quite possible we do have $3M to pay a C, but the top 20 or so are also demanding $4-5M so…
Spot on. Also I feel international players know what it means to work hard when they earn a paycheck.Wasn’t there a poster that said he heard Wildhack say a center that played 10 mins a game last year wanted 5 mil.
It works both ways. At some point even the teams with blank checks are gonna run out.
Personally I think we should just go more euro. We obviously have a ln inroad to those leagues now.
I know people want to see names they recognize from P5 programs and see our school l in some top portal list but there’s no way these guys are better than some of the older overseas guys for the price.
Literally one post in between. You’ll get over your ego one day.Maybe say it’s an assumption then? You’re positioning message board chatter (I’m assuming Trilly) as inside info on every player.
I completely agree. I get that the center market is wildly inflated because the available players aren’t that great or proven, but I thought we’d land a top flight PG at least. I like Dual defensively, but he’s not a proven scorer. I guess we have to hope our coaches can turn him into more of a scorer, unless they can find a starting PG from overseas or among the leftover portal prospects.I'd just like some Cuse fan, anyone, to come in and say "we're getting this dude". Let's say, just as an example, Terrence Hill. Give him whatever. Make a damn statement. I don't usually tell people how to spend their money, but after the "coaching search" that was done, let's truly see what Gerry support he really brought.
To be clear, I'm not down on Gerry. I just don't think he should have been hired. I think that was a big mistake. However, I'm trying (I really am) to move past it. It's just hard when I haven't seen this big NIL wallet that we were told we had because of hiring Gerry. To be fair, Red could have brought in this class (so far).
Disclaimer: I have many IPAs on the brain. My apologies if I offended anyone or may in the future
Player pricing isn’t up 65%. And it’s the center market that’s skewing the overall market. Wings and guards are up somewhat from last year, but centers are where the costs are being wildly inflated.Yes, but elsewhere it was mentioned that player pricing is up 65%. So last years 8, which should have been 10, this year needs to be 16.5. See the problem?
Has BC signed like 6 or 7 guys? I totally understand we aren't going to compete with Lville, Duke, UK etc I'm not unrealistic. But honestly feels like we're getting lapped by teams like BC, providence, Pitt etc. I think that's the thing that is so disappointing. It's not that we're doing nothing it just feels like teams that should be "under" are doing more/have more funding than us
Money is important but I think reputation is our biggest hurdle. We haven’t won a lot of games in a very long time. And you can’t sell “playing in front of 30,000 people” when it hasn’t happened since these players were in middle school.Money is obviously the biggest hurdle in our portal search. A lot seem to be saying we started with $10 million. If that’s true, it is more than last year when it was presumed we had $8 million.
With Freeman, Starling and George, that was an expensive trio.There probably isn’t a player on the current roster making as much as any of them, with the possible exception of Tobiason.
There’s currently nine players on the roster. If each player is getting a million, some more, some less, that’s in the neighborhood of $9 million. Say it’s less, only $7-$8 million. That only leaves $2-3 million for 3 players, including a starting center, who can command about $2 million.
Could the delay in acquiring more players be because we’re trying to raise more money?
So are our guys but a lot of people seem to be pretty happy about them. Point being other teams are doing a lot more than us. We aren't signing any high end players either, same crop of mid major and international unknowns not blue chippers. So why have teams supposedly under us done so much more than usIt’s all been lower level mid /small major guys.
Boston College has a clear strategy of getting good offensive efficiency in their adds (UConn on a much smaller level) I'm happy about our guys as they are collectively positive adds with Dual being a big add from an efficiency standpoint.So are our guys but a lot of people seem to be pretty happy about them. Point being other teams are doing a lot more than us. We aren't signing any high end players either, same crop of mid major and international unknowns not blue chippers. So why have teams supposedly under us done so much more than us
We have about $2 million more than last year. So, with inflation, we have about the same as last year, maybe less. Any even with more money, we still can’t afford a respectable center. Last year we had to settle for UCLA’s backup center. I’d expect someone similar again. We’re on a budget whether people like it or not. But the good news is the new AD won’t allow it to continue.You said we didn’t have more money. We do. Centers also want more this year. I’m not making anything difficult. It’s not hard to understand.
I'm not upset with our adds either I just don't know why a team like BC is doubling us up in terms of addsBoston College has a clear strategy of getting good offensive efficiency in their adds (UConn on a much smaller level) I'm happy about our guys as they are collectively positive adds with Dual being a big add from an efficiency standpoint.
Doubling us up?I'm not upset with our adds either I just don't know why a team like BC is doubling us up in terms of adds
Yeah you're right the discrepancy isn't as large as I thought but it is irritating seeing teams like BC and providence signing guys everyday over the last few days while we've done nothingDoubling us up?
This is such a misleading comment. A lot of other teams are doing more than us? Even in the ACC there are 10 teams alone that have seen mass exoduses and not replenished in the portal. Just because Pitt BC Louisville portal updates are getting blasted in everyone’s faces it doesn’t mean that’s what the rest of the ACC is doing the same. Please go look at the ACC portal tracker. Not rankings just who has actually refilled their roster do far.So are our guys but a lot of people seem to be pretty happy about them. Point being other teams are doing a lot more than us. We aren't signing any high end players either, same crop of mid major and international unknowns not blue chippers. So why have teams supposedly under us done so much more than us
I'm not saying all the ACC teams I just think Pitt/Prov/BC are a lot of the times teams we are compared to or seen as similar to us. So it's just disappointing seeing so much news about these teams over the last few days while nothing on our end. I wasn't trying to say every team is doing more than us I know that isn't the case, it could always be worseThis is such a misleading comment. A lot of other teams are doing more than us? Even in the ACC there are 10 teams alone that have seen mass exoduses and not replenished in the portal. Just because Pitt BC Louisville portal updates are getting blasted in everyone’s faces it doesn’t mean that’s what the rest of the ACC is doing the same. Please go look at the ACC portal tracker. Not rankings just who has actually refilled their roster do far.